<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>In my former mail I left clear why it's suicidal to join a traditional parliamentary group -by the way, I'm still amused trying to find out what do you mean with "<span style="font-style: italic;">groups that could be of interest</span>", if you have PP-E, socialists, leftists, euroskepticals, greens, "liberals" or nationalists in mind-.<br><br>What about non-core issues? Well, voting whatever our favourite groups asks to us doesn't seem to fit with the <span style="font-style: italic;">nothing outside core issues</span> policy -is such policy still in force?-; nor the suggestion that Marten makes with "<span style="font-style: italic;">when we are approached by lobbyists and other parties on issues that are outside the Pirate platform, we will refer them to the relevant person in the group and
encourage them to make their case to him. This will allow us to focus on the issues that we really care about</span>". What are you suggesting, that we show our back to the citizens and submit them to what our puppetmaster wants to? Because that's what we would become, puppets of that mysterious parliamentary group ...<br><br>What happened with the fantastic debate in Berlin about liquid democracy? We in PIRATA had the hope that, as liquid democracy has many resemblances with PIRATA's ILCs -initiatives aimed to allow citizens to set our agenda in non-core issues, instead of allowing traditional parties to do it-, that we may have at PPI scope the same treatment of non-core issues. But apparently we were wrong ...<br><br>... it seems more comfortable to allow Greens to set our agenda; or Vidal-Quadras, Pottering & Berlusconi; or Borrell & Zapatero; or Lega Norte; or maybe those Nordic Green Leftists; or nationalists; or maybe "liberals". Sure!
It's more comfortable that creating a Social Grid to allow citizens and civic groups -e.g., AK Vorrat and other groups treating core & non-core issues- to expose their needs and claims to us; it's more comfortable that collecting proposals supported with signatures like the <a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/"><span style="font-weight: bold;">British e-petition</span></a>; hearing directly the citizens? allowing them to decide our agenda in the non-core issues? D'oh, it's <span style="font-style: italic;">preferable </span>-for the one who's written Uppsala Declaration, not for PIRATA- to surrender to the traditional parties.<br><br>We are not inventing anything, as in countries like Switzerland already exist simmilar regimes; we're simply adapting such notions to become ourselves a proxy for citizens, to allow citizens to participate more in politics, to gain more control on their representatives, to ensure that their representatives remain
faithful to the political platforms that allowed them to nail their seats. Are you denying euro-citizens the chance of enriching EU's democracy? Are you really? Regards,<br><br> <br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br><br>
Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman<br><br>P.S.: "<span style="font-style: italic;">This will allow us to focus on the issues that we really care about</span>"; don't know your case, Marten; the issues that we really care about are the concerns of our voters, not the interests of greedy traditional MPs.<br></div></div><br>
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