<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">----- Mensaje original ----<br>De: Valentin Villenave <v.villenave@gmail.com><br>Enviado: martes, 1 de julio, 2008 12:05:27<br>> I've posted the Uppsala declaration on our forum, and my fellow pirates are discussing it right now. Strictly<br>> *personally* speaking, I really like this text, which is clearly derived from the 2006 Swedish declaration of principles,<br>> but in a more actual and concrete way.<br><br>Besides the EP <span style="font-style: italic;">strategy</span> stuff there aren't ugly contents though there are some missing points; what worries us in PIRATA the most is the complete lack of Information Society issues -FLOSS (remember that proprietary vs FLOSS software centered one of Berlin debates, and
now disappears from Uppsala Declaration like it had never existed), net neutrality, Internet universalization, etc-.<br><br>The thing is that the EP <span style="font-style: italic;">strategy</span> contained in Uppsala Declaration is The Nonsense.<br><br>> As I said, we lack time to get involved in the heated debates about the Parliamentary group (hey, let's try to get *one*<br>> seat already, that should be our primary goal shouldn't it?). Personally speaking (again), I think although principles are<br>> important, what count most is people, not symbols. I'm fully confident that no matter the wording, no matter the <br>> details, everyone among us is aiming for the Greater Good, and will stand for our common values in any situation.<br><br>Valentin: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Piratpartiet suggested in their 2006 Valmanifest to give unconditional support to a concrete party in non-core issues, even if that party didn't give back
support to them in core issues</span>. Do you find it reasonable? It's the betrayal of our ideological neutrality; it's the betrayal of any principles; it's the guarantee of self-destruction; and thanks to Marten, it's mainly due to groups get money and independent parties don't. And now, they want to trick us to accept it for PPI.<br><br>We in PIRATA encourage all pirate parties to disallow Uppsala Declaration, at least as long as the EP <span style="font-style: italic;">strategy</span> is not removed -we disagree in start building the house from the roof, exactly what this declaration means ... but surrendering to a traditional group is simply unacceptable-.<br><br>> The French Parti Pirate (if I can speak in its name) has always found itself in complete harmony with the other pirate<br>> parties we've met or heard about. Getting a (small) ability to act at an European political level is a *huge* step<br>> forward, and we're really looking
forward to helping you guys achieve that.<br><br>Harmony is desirable, though to get it we don't have to give up what we are. Debate is always required; rejection is sometimes needed, when some nonsensical proposals -like giving our support to a traditional party in non-core issues in exchange of nothing- are put on the table. Regards,<br><br><br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br> <br> Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman<br></div></div><br>
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