<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Ole Husgaard <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pirat@sparre.dk" target="_blank" href="mailto:pirat@sparre.dk">pirat@sparre.dk</a>> wrote:<br>> I am going to attend to the ESF event. I'll attend as a PPI member, but I will not try to speak as the voice of all PPI<br>> members - instead I will speak as the chairman of PP DK, and try to explain the views of the other PPI members as I<br>> understand them.<br><br>So, you won't speak as PPI spokesperson but you'll try to explain the views of the other PPI members (?) One statement contradicts the other one.<br><br>> Cooperating with other political voices by having common events does not IMHO mean that we endorse other views.<br>>
Instead it gets us an opportunity to discuss and present our views to other people. People who might support or even<br>> join the pirate parties<br><br>It's almost always a good thing to meet new people, and attending ESF can be a good chance to promote us. However, who are <span style="font-style: italic;">we</span> when you talk about <span style="font-style: italic;">our views</span> to be presented in ESF? Each pirate party separately? Or PPI? No one can act as PPI spokesperson without an agenda agreed by PPI members.<br><br>----- Mensaje original ----<br>De: Félix Robles <redeadlink@gmail.com><br>Enviado: jueves, 3 de julio, 2008 0:56:47<br>> As a (simple) member of the Spanish Pirate Party, I have to agree that it would be interesting to have as many<br>> members of any Pirate Party to attend the event. It is true that those who normally participate on the ESF event are not<br>> neutral on the issues most of the Pirate Parties
have decided to remain "neutral", but that shouldn't stop us from<br>> discussing with them about the issues we are not neutral.<br>><br>> Given the current state of the Pirate Party International thing, I would consider suitable that the members of the<br>> different Pirate Parties speak as members of the PPI, but not representing the whole PPI (just like i'm not representing<br>> the whole Spanish Pirate Party). They should represent just themselves, or, at the most, their national PP's opinion.<br><br>That's right. As I said in former mails, there is no problem in pirate parties members attending ESF; however, as Felix points, those members would represent themselves -or at most their pirate parties if allowed to by them- at the ESF, never PPI as long as PPI don't allow them to -as long as PPI members don't agree a joint agenda-.<br><br>> Félix Robles, a member of the Spanish PP<br><br>Spanish Pirate Party, Partido Pirata or
PIRATA. The <a href="http://www.pp.es/"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Spanish PP</span></a> is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Popular"><span style="font-weight: bold;">a very different party</span></a> which I don't like :P Regards,<br><br> <br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br><br> Partido Pirata (PIRATA) Natioal Board's Chairman<br></div></div><br>
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