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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Calm down! My statement was
only about a different historical background, leading to a different
justification. US Copyright law is based on the following constitution
provision: "<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Section 8, Clause
8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited
Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings
and Discoveries; </FONT>"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>So the "protection" of the
individual is only a means for a social purpose.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Does it work that way? No,
of course it doesn't. Rent seeking record companies and publishers only want to
maximise profits, and they sell their ideas to politicians in a manner the
proverbial used car salesman would be ashamed of. If they clim
constitutional rights, it may be the property right - which is a fallacy in this
context.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>In the US context,
reference to the Constitution is definitely important. Unfortunately, there is
no similar basis in the continental European "droit d'auteur" tradition. Here
the argument may be that "droit d'auteur" is intended primarily to serve the
interests of the actual authors (as becomes apparent e.g. from the existence of
moral rights next to exploitation rights, something unknown in US
copyright!), rather than publishers etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>In sum, in both cases there
is reason to argue that the undue emphasis on commercial exploitation is
unjustified,for different reasons. (Economists, however honest, can only cope
with commercial exploitation. Don't believe them!) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Also, my message was meant
as a "caveat" that (traditional) US copyright justification arguments and EU
author's right justification arguments are not always
compatible. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=aiarakoa@yahoo.es href="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es">Carlos Ayala</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] Purpose of
copyright</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">-----
Mensaje original ----<BR>De: Reinier Bakels <<A
href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl">r.bakels@planet.nl</A>><BR>Enviado:
domingo, 24 de agosto, 2008 16:46:17<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>> Incidentally, European "author's right" is different
from American "copyright". The latter is more<BR>> oriented towards
society, the former to the "author". Which in practice is often the
publisher.<BR>> Where it all goes wrong<BR><BR>If the US "copyright" model
is the right one and the "author's rights" -nevertheless, the UDHR standard-
the wicked one, why do all these things happen in USA?<BR><BR>- filesharing
does not exist in USA -neither private copying in a wide sense, but a kind of
backup copy according to <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Home_Recording_Act#Exemption_from_Infringement_Actions"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">AHRA Section 1008</SPAN></A>-<BR>- a woman <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammie_Thomas"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">fined 9,250 $/song due to non-commercial
filesharing</SPAN></A><BR>- <A
href="http://pratie.blogspot.com/2005/03/ascap-made-girl-scouts-zip-their-lips.html"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">ASCAP forcing Girls Scout to pay or stay
quiet</SPAN></A> -considering singing around a campfire as a copyright
infringement-<BR>- <SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">US public offices</SPAN>
like US-CERT <A href="http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST05-004.html"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">make use of public money to launch campaigns against
filesharing</SPAN></A>, threatening citizens with consequences of
non-commercial sharing of copyrighted works</FONT><FONT size=2><BR><BR>I can
with these evidences -and I would offer many others-, beyond a reasonable
doubt, that US copyright regime fails as well as EU regime in securing
citizen's rights regarding culture, and that stating US copyright regime more
oriented towards society would be an unaccurate statement.
Regards,<BR><BR> <BR>
Carlos
Ayala<BR>
( Aiarakoa
)<BR><BR>
Partido Pirata National Board's
Chairman<BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>__________________________________________________<BR>Correo
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