<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">I've been keeping the forum fairly clean since I deleted the 8000 odd spam messages about a month ago from the forums which had accumulated over time, since May I think. When I had a look at the backend, the captcha had been turned off for some reason, so I re-activated it, and have been checking back every few days or so to clean up the odd spam and bring down some ban hammer wrath on the few spambots that are still getting through. That said, the forum should probably be upgraded to phpBB3, it has an, as of yet, unbroken Captcha. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">To change the link of the Finnish PP (and add the PPAU) someone has to either change the links here, <a href="http://pp.3025-game.de/rss.php?lang=en&origin=PP"><span style="font: 11.0px Verdana; text-decoration: underline ; letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #000099">http://pp.3025-game.de/rss.php?lang=en&origin=PP </span></a> or write up a new block in Drupal or something. I don't have access to the main site though, so I can't help.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">Whilst I’m here, I may as well speak my mind on the PPI manifesto, and I’ll try to be as succinct as is possible; Will it act to define what the PPI will be? As yet, I’m still unsure as to what the construction of the PPI is, or will be. No doubt, as Carlos has pointed out, we need a document that enshrines all that we stand for, and this will of course be an ongoing development as we refine our philosophical, economic and policy arguments, and kudos to Carlos for pushing it as hard as he has, but I think more consideration must be given to the practicalities of the organisation that will represent this international movement.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">What is clear to me, and I think everyone on this list, is that for the movement to be successful in fundamentally altering current public perception, and effecting the legislative changes the national parties seek, we must have a strong, and united international body, to counter international associations and bodies which seek to perpetuate, and even extend the current regimes, and in turn, this strong international front will feed, and strengthen national parties. In my mind, the PPI should be constructed in the sense that it is a federation, rather than a party, a body representing all PP’s, and any other organisations that might also subscribe to the movement’s principles - and should act as a body which disperses information about all national parties and their affiliates, and the programs they are involved in nationally. Of course, this is looking to the hopefully not too distant future, and perhaps I should concentrate on developing our national party here in Australia rather than wasting time on overly long, rather pointless emails such as this one, but I think its something we should think about as we continue to draft the manifesto. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">Hope to be able to continue contributing to this list in the future, some interesting discussion happening.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">Regards,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">R Serkowski</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px">PPAU</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:10:55 +0300<br>From: Anton Tamminen <<a href="mailto:anton.tamminen@piraattipuolue.fi">anton.tamminen@piraattipuolue.fi</a>><br>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] PPI forums and pirateweb<br>To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:48B5A6BF.50505@piraattipuolue.fi">48B5A6BF.50505@piraattipuolue.fi</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Andy Milner wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As far as PPI is concerned ought to spend some time deleting all the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">spam posts from the spam bots that keep getting on there. Thats <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">probably why admin approval is required, so far from it being <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"disgusting for the average user" it's keeping it from being as full <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of porn as it has been in the past. I have been, previously, deleting <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and general housekeeping but unfortunately for me I very rarely have <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the time at the moment to keep on top of things. Worklife takes the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">priority...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>If it is indeed you who manage the site; can you please delegate some of <br>it to others and give them admin access to both the cms and the forum? <br>There is outdated information on the site that would require immediate <br>updating (such as that the finnish pirate party isn't "TYP") and the <br>site contains no meaningful news items on our progress as a movement etc <br>etc.<br><br>-- <br>Anton Tamminen<br>International Secretary, Member of the Board<br>Piraattipuolue - The Pirate Party, Finland<br><a href="http://www.piraattipuolue.fi">http://www.piraattipuolue.fi</a><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>