<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Valentin Villenave <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v.villenave@gmail.com">v.villenave@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Greetings everybody,<br>
<br>
I've just stumbled upon this article, that raises a number of<br>
objections *against* the principle of Internet neutrality (i.e.<br>
non-filtered communications); I'd like to know how you guys feel about<br>
it.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/swanson7.html" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/swanson7.html</a><br>
</blockquote><div><br>Didn't read the article, so I'll just comment on your points.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Basically, his points are:<br>
- most of the Internet traffic nowadays are spams and P2P exchanges<br>
<br>
- filtering data is good to guarantee that real-time communications<br>
(VoIP, telemedicine, gaming etc) are given a low-latency priority over<br>
non-critical communications (e.g. BitTorrent)</blockquote><div><br>This is QoS and it's "good", it discriminates different protocols.<br><br>QoS should not be confused with "net-neutrality", it's a totally different concept.<br>
Examples:<br>- QoS gives priority to VOIP, and takes priority from ftp, and blocks Blaster connections with a firewall<br>- no-net-neutrality would give priority to company_A.com website, and take out priority from company_B.com. And blocks <a href="http://website3.com">website3.com</a>.<br>
<br>I can see just technical reasons on the first, but political/comercial/private interests in the second.<br> <br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service</a><br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality</a><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
- non-filtered data is bad for capitalism and networks development,<br>
since the major infrastructures, backbones, optic fibers etc. will no<br>
longer interest compagnies and will instead be controlled by<br>
governments only</blockquote><div><br>Again, QoS vs net neutrality.<br>Don't never allow them to confuse you with this terms. QoS is necessary and has always been done.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
- "The internet is not a public utility, nor should it be treated as such."<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Strongly disagree, unless you finish the sentence with: "... and the internet is <i>neither</i> a <i>private</i> utility, nor should it be treated as such."<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
This guy is (as far as I can tell) involved with the Republican Party<br>
(he reminds that Obama supports the principle of Net neutrality,<br>
whereas McCain does not).<br>
<br>
As a leftist myself, I strongly disagree with most of his points (the<br>
French left wing has a strong and historical commitment to the "public<br>
service" notion); however my question is:<br>
<br>
- how do we, as a non-right-or-left party, deal with such issues?</blockquote><div><br>net neutrality is a civil rights thing, I think we all deal with that issues.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
- Shall we, for instance, support one of the two USA candidates on this?</blockquote><div><br>That would be left/right<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
- Does supporting the principle of net neutrality bring us closer to<br>
(e.g.) Obama than McCain?<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Maybe, but there are also left-people in favour of net-neutrality, and right-people opposed to it.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Just in case you have a minute to think about it... :-)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Valentin<br>
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