<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b> Christian Hufgard <christian.hufgard@piratenpartei-hessen.de><b><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span></b><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b> viernes, 7 de noviembre, 2008 7:01:14<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></b><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">> * I found amendments one to ten, but they seem to be all from germany. Where are the others?<br><br>Sixth Amendment is from PIRATA. Theoretically, Piraattipuolue and Parti Pirate are going to present amendments within the following two days -according to Valentin Villenave and Anton Taaminen-.<br><br>> * Is there any reason to get in a hurry?
Shouldn't we take enough time, to create a manifesto that<br>> must not be updated in a year, because most pirates have not read it and it is not even fully<br>> translated to all national languages?<br><br>Regarding translations, maybe Piratpartiet, Piraattipuolue,
Piratpartiet Danemark, Piratenpartij and Partia Piratow think that
current First Draft versions are enough to work with; I don't know the
reasons of those parties for not having translated First Draft into
their home languages, they are far more suitable than me to answer that
issue.<br><br>Regarding hurry ... define <span style="font-style: italic;">hurry</span>. I mean: this procedure started in January; effectively started in July; State Two started 1st of September -that gave us more than two months, i.e., 69 days- to propose amendments; it's not like we have only had this week to make amendments, this has been a several months lasting process, specificly a more than two months lasting amending process, and deadlines were agreed before starting the procedure.<br><br>Actually, few people justified the Uppsala Declaration in this list thing because of supposedly being in a hurry -in june- regarding 2009 EU Election; now -in november-, would it really make sense to take more time, specially considering that last PPI Conference before EU Election is scheduled 30th Jan-1st Feb? We still need to debate about a common platform for EU Election; should we guess that, before agreeing a joint platform, we should agree a common set of
principles? <br><br>Jens said in his mail that "<span style="font-style: italic;">the only one which is legitimated to decide on such issues for the german party is me. The german board confirmed this decision again on 4.9.2008</span>". I have no objection to that, as it's an inner PPDE issue; however, from 4.9.2008 to today's 7.11.2008 we have a more than two months gap, that makes me ask this: have PPDE used these nearly two months -plus an additional week, making more than two months- to think which parts of First Draft, if any, should be amended? If the answer is no, then this is not a matter of hurry.<br><br>However, remember that you still have two remaining days to develop your amendments :)
Regards<br><br><br> Carlos Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa
)<br><br> Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman<br><br>P.S.: By the way, I guess -as there are no Piratpartiet amendments- that Swedish pirate party fully agrees with First Draft. If I'm right, I'm quite glad; if I'm wrong, remember you still have two days to propose your amendments.<br><a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div><br>
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