So, at first, you don't move from core issues, but when you have some more people yoy add non-core issues to the party? That's SO bad!<br><br>I fully, absolutely reject the idea of a Pirate Party which ideology is more than core issues. Core issues must be the only ideology of a Pirate Party.<br>
<br>But that doesn't mean that we do nothing on non-core issues. I'm very very proud of the Spanish Pirate Party on that aspect: on non-core issues, we just ask the whole population -not just party members-, as if it were a referendum, about those questions, and if the majority of the vote is YES, and if a significant percentage of the whole population participates on the voting, we just present what the voting decided in congress as if it were one of our core issues. Those 'referendum'-like voting processes would be for very concrete things, and in order to filtrate questions so we are not voting all the time new questions, it must be accepted in a previous voting within the party.<br>
<br>So the Spanish Pirate Party's answer to non-core issues is... <b>liquid democracy</b>, absolute transparency, let the whole population decide! <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Kaj Sotala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kaj.sotala@piraattipuolue.fi">kaj.sotala@piraattipuolue.fi</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Christian Hufgard<br>
<<a href="mailto:christian.hufgard@piratenpartei-hessen.de">christian.hufgard@piratenpartei-hessen.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> We were asked, what we say to minimum wages, integration of foreigners,<br>
> extension of the airports, nuclear power. What do you want to answer to<br>
> people, asking you these questions? Vote us, we let others decide, what<br>
> to do?<br>
<br>
</div>Our party gets asked these questions, too. We tell them that those<br>
aren't on our core agenda, so we have no official stance on them.<br>
<br>
Yes, we lose some voters that way. But we'd lose far more if we'd<br>
start taking specific stances. Before Piraattipuolue, Finland had<br>
Tietoyhteiskuntapuolue (Information Society Party) - they're still<br>
linked at the PPI front page. They tried taking a stance on everything<br>
imaginable - as a result, people weren't sure what exactly they stood<br>
for, and they died.<br>
<br>
In order to become credible, we need to obtain voters. First, we will<br>
obtain voters from the ones who really care about Pirate issues - they<br>
are our first and most important resource at this point. They are the<br>
ones who care about our agenda so much that they will vote for us<br>
regardless of the fact that we have no specific policies on outside<br>
matters. We *must* gain as large a portion of their vote as possible,<br>
because for the rest, the things we're speaking about simply aren't<br>
important. They will see as just one more tiny party that will never<br>
get representation and isn't worth thinking about.<br>
<br>
At some point, we will have harvested the whole vote of our primary<br>
voters. At that point, we need to expand out, introduce new policies<br>
which address the non core-issues. However, this can *only* be done<br>
when we have already established ourselves as a minor but regardless<br>
real party, important enough that the traditional voters will bother<br>
giving us a glance. Introducing non-core policies before that will<br>
prevent us from ever reaching the point where those policies will do<br>
us any good. We must start out by concentrating on those values, and<br>
only those, that our target audience finds most valuable - only after<br>
we've convinced them, can we start convincing the others.<br>
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