<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b> Jens Seipenbusch <seipenbusch@web.de><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></b><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b> jueves, 13 de noviembre, 2008 10:42:51<br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Carlos Ayala schrieb:<br>> > - quorum: for each amendment to become approved, at least 80 % of eligible voters must cast<br>> > their votes; being 11 eligible voters, at least 9 should cast their votes;<br>> why is this 80 % ?<br>> Thats too high imho, our national rules e.g. demand 2/3 majority at most. I'd like to have this<br>> cleared _before_ anyone sets another deadline for the voting provess
please.<br>><br>> Maybe the 11 eligible voters should be named here and should be asked how they want to vote<br>> this<br><br>First of all, it doesn't require 80 % of eligible voters supporting an amendment; the <span style="font-weight: bold;">80 %</span> stands for <span style="font-weight: bold;">minimum turnout percentage</span>, not for minimum supermajority percentage. If 11 votes -100 % turnout- cast their vote, the required supermajority would be 81 % -9 out of 11- but just because of the veto clause -up to 2 rejecting votes are allowed to pass an amendment; 3 or more rejecting votes cause the amendment to become rejected- and only if we register a 100 % turnout, lower turnout causes lower required supermajority -lowest one being with 9 cast votes at 63'63 % (even lower than the 2/3 supermajority you talked about)-.<br><br>- if 9 eligible voters cast their vote, at least 7 must support a concrete amendment to get it passed<br>- if 10
eligible voters cast their vote, at least 8 must support a concrete amendment to get it passed<br>- if 11 eligible voters cast their vote, at least 9 must support a concrete amendment to get it passed<br>- if turnout is lower than 80 %, the ballot for that amendment is simply ignored<br><br>After having explained this, I must point that this was agreed several months ago:<br><br>- voting rules were not approved by me, but by eligible voters' representatives -Andrew, Anton, Artemiusz, Roderick, Helmut, Ole, etc-<br>- voting rules were approved at a Stage One session, and published in this PPI list; I may search for the exact date of its publishing, if you want<br>- voting rules have also been public <a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/index.php?title=Pirate_Manifesto_Amendments_Voting_Rules&action=history"><span style="font-weight: bold;">during the last two months</span></a> in <a
href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_Amendments_Voting_Rules">this wiki page</a><br>- during the last months, however, nobody has commented anything on<br>* any of representatives not truly being deciding on behalf of their pirate parties<br>* any of eligible voters not agreeing with agreed voting rules<br><br>I can prove all of these facts, hope this get any doubts cleared, and hope that there is no will of changing voting rules <span style="font-weight: bold;">during</span> the ballot :) Regards,<br><br> <br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br><br> Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman<br></div></div></div><br>
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