<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></b><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Stallman's Amendment</span> was dropped because of your command, Jens; I've proved it in a former mail. <span style="font-weight: bold;">You, Jens, were the one who dropped the 3rd Amendment (and 1st, and 2nd, and 4th, and 5th)</span>. If you, for any unknown reason, are unable to distinguish between
what's true and what's wrong, I can copy&paste again your mail, to
prove you're lying:<br>
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Jens, 6-XI-08: "<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The only one which is legitimated to decide on such issues for the german party is me</span> [...] <span style="font-style: italic;">I will try to look <span style="font-weight: bold;">through all the amendments which were made by german pirates</span> and decide on them asap. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Until now i thought it would be only the 8th and 10th.....</span></span>"
(you changed your mind ... 40 hours after deadline ... and even then
you still wanted to drop 1st, 2nd, 4th & 5th amendments, the ones
made by Helmut Pozimski)<br>
<br>You lie again about annulling amendments. <a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_Amendments_Rules">There is one rule</a>,
stating that parties' representatives were the ones allowed to decide
-supposedly, on behalf of their parties- how to propose amendments;
after you replaced Helmut and changed PPDE's amending mode,
automatically all previous PPDE amendments became annulled, as they
were made against rules -i.e., not made according to PPDE apparent will, and also not made by PPDE apparent representative-.<br>
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And you, after that, decided to rescue -as I've quoted before- only
8th, adding your 10th one. Those are the facts, the rest are ... maybe
fantasies. Remember, Jens: the more you lie, the less trustworthy you
become.<br><br>
And you lie again, Jens, concerning other's viewpoints -maybe
that's the thing you find amusing, saying lies-: Ole has complained
about some multi-choice ballots -I think he was talking about 1st
ballot; and I may add 7th ballot (it's not the case Ole was talking
about, however it's a divided vote)-, and in my report I agree in
reviewing the results to avoid divided vote ruins the Manifesto.
However, Ole hasn't complained about quorum -furthermore, he was one of
the people, along with me and others, encouraging representatives to
seek for high turnouts in order to give legitimacy to ballots' results
("<span style="font-style: italic;">We need to be near consensus anyway</span>", <a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_IRC_meeting_20080710">he said</a>);
of course he would may have changed his mind, though he didn't in his
mail-.<br><br>Why is so difficult to you to stick to the truth? I mean, I
think saying the truth is usually simplier ... so: <span style="font-weight: bold;">don't lie</span> -specially if your lies affect me-, as <span style="font-weight: bold;">the more you lie, the less trustworthy you become</span>. regards,<br>
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<br>
Carlos Ayala<br>
( Aiarakoa )<br>
<br>
Presidente de la Junta Directiva Nacional de PIRATA<br><br>P.S.: Actually, what we are going to do after the orthographic &
grammer correction -reviewing the controversial ballots, 1st, 6th &
7th- is quite close to what Ole proposed 4 months ago: "<span style="font-style: italic;">I
wonder if it would be best with two rounds of voting: One initial with
simple majority, and another with a higher majority needed to change
things</span>".<br></div></div></div><br>
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