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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>The "droit the suite"
directive 2001/84/EC really has nothing to do with levies (in the meaning of
"taxes" imposed on information carriers). During the copyright course in
university 8 years ago I got the assigment to speak about the former, so I
know something about it. And, as I told you, I wrote a response to the EU levies
consultation earlier this year, together with some fellows from vrijschrift
(scriptumlibre - for international purposes).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Of course, everything is
important. But there are priorities. I don't think "droit the suite" is a
political priority, but feel free to disagree. Few people are interested in
professional art object trade (paintings, sculptures).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao, Saygilar,
Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adios, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei, Yassou,
Yoroshiku, Slán, Vinarliga, Kær Kveðja<BR>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS PhD
LL.M. MSc<BR>private: Johan Willem Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The
Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126, GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, fax
+31 79 316 7221</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=aiarakoa@yahoo.es href="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es">Carlos Ayala
Vargas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] Resale
rights and 2001/84/EC directive: obscenely enlarging material interests of
authors</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Reinier Bakels wrote:
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>The "droit de suite" directive you refer to has
(indeed) nothing to do with levies. Copies of paintings on USB sticks are
outside the scope of this directive.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Let me call them
levies -I cannot translate properly a Spanish proverb, basically it says that,
no matter how a thing is disguised, it remains being the same thing-, as they
are going to be collected -at least in Spain- by RMOs -though the management
of this kind of levy by RMOs is voluntarily decided by the rightholders, while
the private copies levy is in Spain forcibly managed by RMOs-. Actually, this
Directive -and its Spanish implementation- follows a typical black comedy joke
about levies being applied even to paper sheets -just in case they are used to
contain copyrighted works xD-; in this case, the levies are applied to the
physical medium for the paintings.<BR><BR>If RMOs has not such amount of power
in Netherlands, I'm truly glad to hear it.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Whether the (professional) trade in art is
something to be concerned about - you are entitled to have your opinion, but
I see other MUCH MORE urgent issues.</FONT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Having
<I>much more urgent</I> issues doesn't mean to forget the <I>much less
urgent</I> ones; let me use italic font-style as for PIRATA is an interesting
issue -at least to be echoed in our official blog-, and let people in PPI
decide whether it is interesting enough or not to do the same.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Incidentally, the trade of art is subject to very
specific regulations. A PhD candidate in our university is working on a
thesis about this subject. And there is a specific role for UNESCO. While we
usually find too much copyright, copyright is not always suited for
true protection of genuine cultural values.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>But I guess this is mostly beyond the scope of
mainstream PP activism. </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Wrong.