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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>The "droit de suite"
directive you refer to has (indeed) nothing to do with levies. Copies of
paintings on USB sticks are outside the scope of this directive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Whether the (professional)
trade in art is something to be concerned about - you are entitled to have your
opinion, but I see other MUCH MORE urgent issues. Incidentally, in the political
struggle about this directive, specific countries (and their art scene)
played a specific role, but I can't reproduce the
specifics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Incidentally, the trade of
art is subject to very specific regulations. A PhD candidate in our university
is working on a thesis about this subject. And there is a specific role for
UNESCO. While we usually find too much copyright, copyright is not always suited
for true protection of genuine cultural values.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>But I guess this is mostly
beyond the scope of mainstream PP activism. </FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao, Saygilar,
Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adios, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei, Yassou,
Yoroshiku, Slán, Vinarliga, Kær Kveðja<BR>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS PhD
LL.M. MSc<BR>private: Johan Willem Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The
Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126, GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, fax
+31 79 316 7221</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=aiarakoa@yahoo.es href="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es">Carlos Ayala
Vargas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] Resale
rights and 2001/84/EC directive: obscenely enlarging material interests of
authors</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Reinier Bakels wrote:
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Some comments:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>- I am afraid this war is over, there is little to
do against it.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>First of all, we can report about it.
Later, if we achieve representation in Europarliament, we can go further.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>- Having said that, please note that the scope is
relatively limited (of the Spanish transposition is not, the ECJ may correct
it).</FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff>It is only for works of art like
paintings that are sold via professional art galeries and auctions, and
there is a threshold.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>While it's restricted, it's
enough to be harmful.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>- The purpose is to prevent the "Vincent van Gogh"
syndrome: a poor painter selling his works for next to nothing because heen
needs the money quickly, finding that only a few years later his works are
traded for zillions of euro's. Isn't that a noble, social
purpose?</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>And the <I>van Gogh syndrome</I> also forces
EU to calculate the levy from the resale price instead of the increase of
value -i.e., collecting the levy even where there is a loss in the resale-?
The <I>van Gogh syndrome</I> is just an excuse.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>- This situation leads to the more general
question: what is *justice* if someone created something, and got very
little money for it - that later turned out to be VERY valuable. It is a
kind of market failure that can not be remedied by "internalisation".
Sometimes copyright and patent law can help, but not always: copyright does
not prevent the sale of a physical painting. In basic science, the problem
is probably even worse: there are often decades if not centuries
between scientific discoveries and actual
application.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>We are not talking about inventions, but
about intellectual works -furthermore, the levy is not applied to the
intellectual work but to the physical medium where the work is placed!-. You
are asked to make a painting, you agree a price, you sell the painting, you
earn the money; isn't it enough? Collecting levies for further resales seems
abusive to
me.<BR><BR><BR>
Carlos
Ayala<BR>
( Aiarakoa
)<BR><BR>
Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman
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