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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wildfinn@gmail.com href="mailto:wildfinn@gmail.com">Gagis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] where is
the manifesto?</DIV>
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<DIV>Guys guys.<BR><BR>Stallman is right once again.<BR><BR>Let us see what we
are doing here: We are planning to CHANGE things.<BR><BR>No law, setting,
definition or human way of thinking is a law of nature or an unbreakable
axiom. Let us look at what we WANT from all this, which is obviously to
abolish both previous and current restriction on information sharing. Useless
wordplay and non-constructive arguments are not necessary here.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Well, there is the
"axiom" or a reliable government. In simple terms: one can expect a government
to keep its promises. But one can not always </FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>expect the government to make
certain promises, even if it did in the past. In other words:
a government can not expropriate existing copyrights (subjective rights,
related to specific words). But a government can change future copyrights.
Even though some people believe it is a "natural" right or even a "human"
right. That's simple: human rights that stop after 70 years are no human
rights! </FONT><BR><BR>If something is wrong, we try to
change it, that is all we need.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Th fact of the matter is
that copyright, patent law, trademark law etc. are pretty much constrained by
various treaties. If we do not just want to complain (that is easy ...), but
really want to achieve something, we should look for the holes in the
system. Fundamental changes aren't impossible but take (much) more time. Bu
there are holes!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>At the same time, "legal
logic" is often <EM>invented</EM> just with the purpose of protecting certain
trade interests. With the copyright levies debate this was VERY
obvious: laguishing record companies were pretty explicit that they
wanted their share from the prosperous electronics industry.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff
size=2>reinier </FONT><BR></DIV>
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