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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>I agreee, it is confusing.
The term "intellectual property" exists for a long time as a generic
concept. But specific rules depending (only!) on a decision "is this
intellectual property" did not exist, until very recently. The route
always was: this is copyrigh (Y/N) so it belongs to the group "intellectual
property" (Y/N).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Not that the statutes
usually do not define a concept such as "civil law" either. Some qualifications
(jn terms of concepts) have legal consequences, others
haven't. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao, Saygilar,
Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adios, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei, Yassou,
Yoroshiku, Slán, Vinarliga, Kćr Kvedja<BR>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS PhD
LL.M. MSc<BR>private: Johan Willem Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The
Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126, GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, fax
+31 79 316 7221</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=aiarakoa@yahoo.es href="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es">Carlos Ayala
Vargas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 29, 2008 8:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] where is
the manifesto?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Reinier Bakels wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:A284B10F0D124723A280A56C955E817C@RBB2008
type="cite">The important moment is when "intellectual property" started to
be used as a *legal* concept - which is very recent: in IPRED1/2, and in the
(still not adopted) European Constitution, aka Lisbon Treaty. Before, it
wasloosely used as a generic concept - actually acknowledging that legal
protection is the exception to the rule of freedom of information.
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><I>Legal</I>? Maybe Spanish 1889 Civil Law is not<I>
legal</I> enough for you?<BR><BR>Spain -and RMS pointed it out- exists.<BR>
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