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Reinier Bakels wrote:
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  <div><font color="#0000ff">Well, apparently I can not convince
Carlos, but I would urge all other pirates to be very careful in using
human rigghts arguments, basically for the following reasons:</font></div>
  <div><font color="#0000ff">1. they are not always convicing</font></div>
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If you find yourself not being convincing while defending human rights,
maybe you should consider to change your rhetoric rather than blaming
the human rights themselves. I think many -even most- <i>pirates</i>
are convinced.<br>
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Maybe it's just a matter of communication between you and the rest of
citizens; I would suggest you to think about it.<br>
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  <div><font color="#0000ff">2. they may lead to arguments completely
contrary to the PP political agenda.</font></div>
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They may lead to lies -made with twisted interpretations- spread by
lobbies like RMOs and such; I think our duty is to counter those lies,
rather than fleeing from that <i>arena</i>.<br>
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  <div><font color="#0000ff">Politics are not the place to try your
skill in making intellectual arguments. Note that - even among <b>lawyers
who support the PP objectives</b> - <b><u>there is no doubt</u> that
(honestly!) some human rights arguments actually are in favour of
stronger IP</b>.</font></div>
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You too often speak on behalf of people who doesn't agree with you.
Talk with David Bravo and some other Spanish lawyers, specialized in
author's rights issues, and there is no doubt -:)- that you'll discover
how wrong you are.<br>
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  <div><font color="#0000ff"> A proper analysis requires a complicated
legal theoretical account. Human rights are often conflicting, so it is
essential to strike a balance.</font></div>
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Draft C, as well as UDHR's article 30, talks about balance between
human rights; however, I'm afraid that's not the kind of balance you
have in mind ...<br>
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  <div><font color="#0000ff">In order to promote information freedom, I
suggest to refer to information explicitly. Same for privacy. Simple,
isn't it?</font></div>
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I don't know if other pirate parties would follow your <i>advice</i>;
simply, there is no room for it in PIRATA's Statute.<br>
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<br>
                                                                                                 
Carlos Ayala<br>
                                                                                                 
( Aiarakoa )<br>
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Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman
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