<div>Hi all,</div>
<div>think it is a great idea to put up meetings. On the other hand I think that meetings needing more time and input (request for public fundings and other types of tecnocracy) that...Well it is too pesimistic to say that the input is gonna be higher in qualitative and quantitative terms than the output, but in my experience until now this is usually the case. </div>
<div>What do you think about creating a central party board? I have observed until now that the decission-making of the party is kind of splittered, since everybody acts from inside border levels. Obviously borders play a role in policy making but I think pirates shouldn´t commit the same mistakes like other (european) parties -whereas pirates have also a Chile-based branch- failing in border based policy making. What about being a true borderless party? Is it pure utopia? Would it be possible to move the seat of the party from one country to another? What about using mailboxes to be checked by local pirate-members? What about a central online bank account for activists to get funds directly? </div>
<div>I think keeping the levels of burocracy-tecnocracy to the lowest levels possible makes transparency also easier to achieve.</div>
<div>Al this implies a certain level of trust. In Germany it is said that "trusting is good, but controlling is better". Some keywords</div>
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<div>Central party office (pirata.eu?), lobbying in Brussel for wireless inet-access, for legalization, for deintermediation in policy making,</div>
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<div>I fetch the next coffee</div>
<div>See ya</div>
<div>Gabriel<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/2 Amelia Andersdotter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com">teirdes@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">2009/8/2 Patrick Mächler v/o Valio <<a href="mailto:valio@visionsinteractive.ch">valio@visionsinteractive.ch</a>>:<br>
<div class="im">> Dear pirates,<br>><br>> What would you think of organizing a study session for young people<br>> (mostly pirates) for about a week, that would be almost free for all<br>> participants, except for a small fee of about 45€?<br>
><br><br></div>It's a fantastic idea! We already have a semi-formed working group for<br>this within Ung Pirat in Sweden. It's one of our main international<br>ambitions for the coming year, when it will also receive a place in<br>
our budget bringing down those 45 euros to some maximum of 30 or so<br>per participant.<br><br>However, there aren't just funding opportunities from CoE: we've been<br>looking into funding opportunities from the Youth Action Initiative by<br>
the European Commission. Basically, with the EC requirements, we need<br>a cultural/educational exchange between two or more EU member states.<br>They normally fund about 70-75% of the entire project cost except for<br>travelling costs which they only fund 60% of.<br>
<br>In Sweden, these EC grants are applied for via Ungdomsstyrelsen (Board<br>of Youth - administratory unit responsible for all grants and funds to<br>youth orgs) 4 times a year, so it's money we'd likely get relatively<br>
quick.<br><br>When I was in touch with Junge Piraten they said they'd like for such<br>an event to be held during the summer holidays, and that's probably<br>the best alternative for most young pirates, so I'd say we set the<br>
dates for some time next year in july (2010)!<br><br>Also, anyone else who might be reading this: it helps vastly when<br>applying for youth in action grants if there's a collaboration between<br>youth organisations, so if you know a couple of young pirates with<br>
free time on their hands: have them start your national youth league!<br>We can then have exchanges!<br><br>sincerely,<br><br>Amelia<br>
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<div class="h5"><br>> ======================<br>> 1. WHY SHOULD WE CARE?<br>> ======================<br>><br>> I was recently at a study session that was organized by a ANSO, a nordic<br>> LGBT union at the Youth Center in Budapest by the Council of Europe<br>
> (CoE). The CoE supported them in every way you could think of;<br>> financial, organizational and last but not least shelter, food and<br>> ticket refunding for all participants.<br>> I will remember that as a really great experience.<br>
><br>> To make things clear: The CoE is that organization that is concerned<br>> with the European Convention on Human Rights; it has no direct<br>> connections to the European Union. Almost all European countries are a<br>
> part of it.<br>><br>> The CoE does support topics which are on our agendas, take a look<br>> <a href="http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=11#action11" target="_blank">http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=11#action11</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=8#action8" target="_blank">http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=8#action8</a><br>><br>> In my view that would be a real opportunity for us on an organizational<br>
> and a political level.<br>><br>> ==================<br>> 2. WHAT IS NEEDED?<br>> ==================<br>><br>> We would need to create a team which<br>> * fills out a funding application<br>> * gets in contact with the CoE<br>
> * creates a program for the study session<br>> * and executes that program in the study session<br>><br>> There are some criteria which we would have to met of course to get<br>> accepted.<br>><br>> --- quote ---<br>
> Activities can only be awarded if they are truly international or<br>> multilateral projects, which<br>> • Involve participants who are residents in at least 8 member states of<br>> the Council of Europe, limiting participants coming from one country to<br>
> 20% of the total. Up to a maximum of 15% of the participants may come<br>> from non-member countries;<br>> • Have a majority of participants between 18 and 30 years of age (with a<br>> maximum of 25% over the age of 30) who can act as multipliers of the<br>
> results of the work done during the activity;<br>> • Strive to achieve a geographical and gender balance.<br>> --- /quote ---<br>> For detailed information, take a look here <a href="http://tinyurl.com/how-to-ss" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/how-to-ss</a><br>
><br>> =========================<br>> 3. WHEN COULD WE DO THAT?<br>> =========================<br>><br>> From <a href="http://www.eycb.coe.int/" target="_blank">http://www.eycb.coe.int/</a><br>> --- quote ---<br>
> The EYC Secretariat must receive applications for activities to be held<br>> at either EYC Budapest or EYC Strasbourg by the following deadlines:<br>> * 1 April for activities to be carried out in the first half of the<br>
> following calendar year;<br>> * 1 October for activities to be carried out in the second half of the<br>> following calendar year.<br>> --- /quote ---<br>><br>> I think if some people are really interested we could manage this still<br>
> for 2010 or maybe 2011.<br>> No, something like this should not be done in a hurry, but neither<br>> should it be procrastinated unnecessarily.<br>><br>> =============<br>> 4. CONCLUSION<br>> =============<br>
><br>> Some people might think that this sounds totally crazy, but I am<br>> convinced that we should give that opportunity a try...better sooner,<br>> than later...<br>><br>> The idea is there. You have the chance to discuss it anytime; be it on a<br>
> local/national/international event or on the net.<br>> I know it sounds idealistic, but that's just how I am :)<br>><br>> - cheers<br>> patrick<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>
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