What we need are open hardware standards for that open free software. There are already platforms out there now finally. If we had the money to buy enough of any number of solutions, we could go door to door and pretty quickly build neighborhood (or even city) intranets.<div>
<br></div><div>All a matter of time and resources, now. I'm pretty sure we have more or less everything we need.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Enrique Herrera Noya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quiquetux@gmail.com">quiquetux@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Felipe Sanches escribió:<div class="im"><br>
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so... we need free software.<br>
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Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require non-free firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?<br>
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look <a href="http://openwrt.org/" target="_blank">http://openwrt.org/</a><br>
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We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this fundamental free software based technological support for such ideas!<br>
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Felipe Sanches<br>
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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <<a href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com" target="_blank">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com" target="_blank">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello Enrique,<br>
<br>
<br>
I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication and<br>
do not<br>
see the the three out of woods.<br>
I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based<br>
solutions.<br>
The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work<br>
for me"<br>
even not knowing what it really is doin' it...<br>
<br>
the solution: global awareness:)<br>
here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate<br>
party are<br>
dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.<br>
<br>
Only knowledge can free us all!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:<br>
<br>
Enrique> history repeats itself ...<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church,<br>
for it was they<br>
Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books<br>
were burned, who<br>
Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused him<br>
of heresy.<br>
Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers<br>
and governments.<br>
<br>
Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new<br>
neo-obscurantism.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through<br>
different media,<br>
Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative networks)<br>
<br>
Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities), we<br>
could create<br>
Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not depend on<br>
the ISP and<br>
Enrique> could exchange information freely.<br>
Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and<br>
between continents.<br>
Enrique> but by that time, we must first free networks in cities.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> in spanish<br>
Enrique> la historia se repite<br>
<br>
Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la<br>
iglesia, pues eran<br>
Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,<br>
Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una<br>
opinion no<br>
Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el<br>
monopolio de la<br>
Enrique> informacion<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son<br>
las editoras<br>
Enrique> y los gobiernos.<br>
<br>
Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como es<br>
nueva<br>
Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo<br>
<br>
<br>
Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a traves de<br>
Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de<br>
papel, redes<br>
Enrique> alternativas)<br>
<br>
Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2 (formadas<br>
por las<br>
Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre"<br>
utilizando los<br>
Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de los<br>
ISP y se<br>
Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.<br>
Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre ciudades y<br>
entre<br>
Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener<br>
redes libres en<br>
Enrique> las ciudades.<br>
Enrique> ____________________________________________________<br>
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