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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>I recall a lecture on the yearly German CCC conference about Open Hardware. You confirm again that there is a need for Open Hardware in addition to Open Software.</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>Van:</B> pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net namens Felipe Sanches<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> vr 25.09.2009 17:42<BR><B>Aan:</B> Aleksandar Blagojevic; Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] an idea comes to me<BR></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>so... we need free software.<BR><BR>Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require non-free firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?<BR><BR>We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this fundamental free software based technological support for such ideas!<BR><BR>Felipe Sanches<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Hello Enrique,<BR><BR><BR>I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication and do not<BR>see the the three out of woods.<BR>I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based solutions.<BR>The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work for me"<BR>even not knowing what it really is doin' it...<BR><BR>the solution: global awareness:)<BR>here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate party are<BR>dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.<BR><BR>Only knowledge can free us all!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:<BR><BR>Enrique> history repeats itself ...<BR><BR><BR>Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church, for it was they<BR>Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books were burned, who<BR>Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused him of heresy.<BR>Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers and governments.<BR><BR>Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new neo-obscurantism.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through different media,<BR>Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative networks)<BR><BR>Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities), we could create<BR>Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not depend on the ISP and<BR>Enrique> could exchange information freely.<BR>Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and between continents.<BR>Enrique> but by that time, we must first free networks in cities.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Enrique> in spanish<BR>Enrique> la historia se repite<BR><BR>Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la iglesia, pues eran<BR>Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,<BR>Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una opinion no<BR>Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el monopolio de la<BR>Enrique> informacion<BR><BR><BR>Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son las editoras<BR>Enrique> y los gobiernos.<BR><BR>Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como es nueva<BR>Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo<BR><BR><BR>Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a traves de<BR>Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de papel, redes<BR>Enrique> alternativas)<BR><BR>Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2 (formadas por las<BR>Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre" utilizando los<BR>Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de los ISP y se<BR>Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.<BR>Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre ciudades y entre<BR>Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener redes libres en<BR>Enrique> las ciudades.<BR>Enrique> ____________________________________________________<BR>Enrique> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<BR>Enrique> <A href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</A><BR>Enrique> <A href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target=_blank>http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</A><BR><FONT color=#888888><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Best regards, <A href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</A><BR>Aleksandar Blagojevic <A href="mailto:admin@piratskapartija.com">admin@piratskapartija.com</A><BR>Serbian Pirte Party founder <A href="http://piratskapartija.com/" target=_blank>http://piratskapartija.com/</A><BR></FONT>
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