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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I
am a member of the UK political party,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Most
of the points in this blog are taken out of context.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=611">http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=611</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>As shown from the
Thread and poll started August 26 for this. I see an over whelming favor for
the thread to be moved back into the public domain. I am curious why this was
not carried out as part of the will of the people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Homophobic topic
from Andy was actually caused by an leadership debate concerning the current
policy “or wording of a policy” that could make the PPUK look bad or even
stupid as it can be misinterpreted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I
found it amusing myself, because I am one of the channel administrators for the
PPUK channel. I was accused of being homophobic and scaring a new volunteer
away for pretending to be gay with another IRC channel admin. After using logs
of the conversation and logically walking through the state of mind the individuals
who made the accusation had to be under. I showed two individuals, that they got
the facts wrong and became a fundamentalist who has extended the meaning for their
own personal vindication and self gratification to persecute someone for
something they didn’t do. Not only that, but the original person supposedly
offended, was actually just going AFK because he needed to go to the loo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The individual has
straw manned the argument against the obscene images act. Since the article they
linked clearly stated that a clear use of common sense was required. Obviously
such a stupid stick drawing would not land you in prison under the PPUK recommendation.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>All the article dos is highlight the
possible negative effects by opening that door. PPUK will be the target of many
activists if an incident is found where the “wording of a policy that advocated
the free transmission of indecent images” was to be backed by us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net
[mailto:pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joonas
Mäkinen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 October 2009 15:44<br>
<b>To:</b> Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Party UK Critism<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Altough I am not from UK, I do have to point out what the
text made me think about you:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>He is quite right about freedom of expressing opinions, even
if they are homophobic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><br>
"<a href="http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=655">http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=655</a>"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I disagree with this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>To get the trust of people who
in turn have lost their trust in the old parties, you need to be more open than
them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2009/10/2 Kai Mast <<a
href="mailto:kai.mast@freakybytes.org">kai.mast@freakybytes.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hey,<br>
<br>
I would like the members of the Pirate Party UK to comment on this<br>
blogpost.<br>
<a href="http://bitplane.net/2009/09/pirate-party-uk-fail/" target="_blank">http://bitplane.net/2009/09/pirate-party-uk-fail/</a><br>
<br>
greetings,<br>
<span style='color:#888888'>Kai<br>
<br>
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target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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-- <br>
Joonas "JoonasD6" Mäkinen<br>
Varapuheenjohtaja, viceordförande<br>
Piraattinuoret - Piratungdom<br>
<br>
Department of Mathematics and Statistics<br>
Faculty of Science<br>
University of Helsinki<br>
<br>
gsm +358 40 700 5190<o:p></o:p></p>
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