Thanks for your effort Nicolas.<br><br>This is outrageous. Is this how freedom of speech at internet ends? This will not affect Spain because our constitution explicitly requires a judge order prior censoring each and any publication (which includes any internet webpage among other things), but what about the rest of the countries? I mean, for example, the UK, which has no Constitution.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ok, also translated todays blog from CE:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://etherpad.com/tBIfGN4eiO" target="_blank">http://etherpad.com/tBIfGN4eiO</a></div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div>
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think the Council prefer vague terms and that is why this needs more publicity so spread the translation with analyzes such as these and do not hesitate to contact Christian for feedback, no point in we starting to assume what he says.. We are not the media so we should provide a reliable source of information to the media when we can in my opinion.<div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/22 Félix Robles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:redeadlink@gmail.com" target="_blank">redeadlink@gmail.com</a>></span><div>
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Christian says:<br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><i>"</i><br><div><i><span>It
contains, as I said a "prior", and the more I think about it all the
more fond I become of the statement that the closures will only take
place under "exceptional circumstances". No man can of course argue
that it would be something exceptional with someone being accused of
file sharing. According to the IFPI itself it's around 3 million people
in Sweden alone dealing with it. ;)<br></span></i></div></blockquote><div><blockquote><i>"</i><br></blockquote><br>When he talks about "exceptional circumstances" he is talking about this part of <a href="http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/EP_Flawed_Proposal_20091020" target="_blank">the text</a>:<i><br>
<br></i><blockquote><i>"</i><i>"3a. Measures taken by Member States regarding end-users' access to
or use of services and applications through electronic communications
networks[...]</i><br><i>Any such measures liable to restrict those fundamental rights or
freedoms may only be taken in <b>exceptional circumstances</b> and imposed if
they are necessary, appropriate and proportionate within a democratic
society</i>"<br><br></blockquote>But, as they say at La Quadrature, "exceptional circumstances", "appropriate", "necessary" are vague terms and are very open to interpretation. Those terms should be removed and replaced with others that are crystal clear and specific.<br>
<br>When he says it contains "prior", I hope he's talking about "prior ruling by the judicial authorities" , and in that case, I hope that the prior ruling is also necessary even on "exceptional circumstances" and you all know what I mean...<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Felix Robles<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div>Correction:<div>"Christian Engström (PPSE MEP) wrote a interesting blog entry about he perceived things yesterday so you may want to have a look at my translation:"</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hmm, so easy to get lost in translation..</div>
<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div></font><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Christian Engström (PPSE MEP) wrote a interesting blog entry about he preserved things yesterday so you may want to have a look at my translation:<div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://etherpad.com/02r8u558Lb" target="_blank">http://etherpad.com/02r8u558Lb</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Please do not hesitate to release it to the press and you can do adjustments on EtherPad in case needed, but let me know for larger changes so we do not get completely lost in translation.. ;)</div><div>
<br></div><div>No, I did not translate all referred documents such as Hax blog entry etc, besides EtherPad does not support linking.. It would be nice if someone was hired to do these translations in Brussels for the case of transparency.</div>
<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas<br><br></div></font><div><div></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>This is how it can go in a odd place like EU negotiations..</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-dead-by-lack-of-courage-of-the-parliament" target="_blank">http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-dead-by-lack-of-courage-of-the-parliament</a><div>
<br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div>
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