Either way you don't know how the bittorrent protocol works or you already understand what I said. <br><br>So I agree with coretx: Telling us /why/ it does not make sense, would be a much more valuable contribution to a constructive debate.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Glenn Kerbein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
That doesn't make a bit of sense.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Félix Robles wrote:<br>
> But why should Google or any other webpage have to remove links to<br>
> torrent files? That's like removing from a webpage the GPS coordinates<br>
> of a knife.<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kerbein<br>
</div>> <<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a>>><br>
<div class="im">> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Agreed.<br>
> Furthermore, your argument about indexers is poor at best. Google has<br>
> agents to handle takedown requests for YouTube, images, and the sites it<br>
> indexes. See Viacom v. Youtube. The Pirate Bay /prides itself/ on not<br>
> employing any takedown agents (thus not having the safe harbor clause).<br>
> I suggest that you peruse Professor James Boyle's The Public Domain<br>
> (particularly the chapter entitled "The Internet Threat"): he waxes<br>
> eloquently about the subject of Napster and Grokster.<br>
><br>
> Charly wrote:<br>
> > I think it becomes a problem when people are confused about the<br>
> > distinction between the two organisations. I've heard people<br>
> calling us<br>
> > the "Pirate Bay Party" (cringe).<br>
> > Boundaries between TPB and PP need to be made clear.<br>
> > Charly<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist<br>
> <<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > TPB is a index engine like Google and both indexes torrents where<br>
> > Google actually hold infringed content via YouTube and Google<br>
> Books<br>
> > while PP's does neither.<br>
> ><br>
> > I know politics is so sensitive and therefore the crappy argument,<br>
> > but would we exist without Napster, TPB etc? It kinda feels<br>
> silly to<br>
> > deny once relatives..<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - Nicolas<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Glenn Kerbein<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us">glenn.kerbein@pirate-party.us</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm going to side with RMS on this.<br>
> ><br>
> > Richard Stallman wrote:<br>
> > > If TPB promotes the Pirate Party, it would tend to<br>
> support the<br>
> > statements<br>
> > > that some people make that "You're just a bunch of<br>
> criminals."<br>
> > > This might be a reason not to do it.<br>
> > > ____________________________________________________<br>
> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>>><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein<br>
> > United States Pirate Party<br>
> > "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"<br>
> > <a href="http://www.pirate-party.us/" target="_blank">http://www.pirate-party.us/</a><br>
> > ____________________________________________________<br>
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
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> ><br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ____________________________________________________<br>
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> > ____________________________________________________<br>
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
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><br>
> --<br>
> Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein<br>
> United States Pirate Party<br>
> "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"<br>
> <a href="http://www.pirate-party.us/" target="_blank">http://www.pirate-party.us/</a><br>
> ____________________________________________________<br>
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
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><br>
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--<br>
Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein<br>
United States Pirate Party<br>
"Burn, Hollywood, Burn"<br>
<a href="http://www.pirate-party.us/" target="_blank">http://www.pirate-party.us/</a><br>
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