2009/10/26 Jeppe Winther <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeppe.winther@piratpartiet.dk">jeppe.winther@piratpartiet.dk</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On the plus side, newer computer technology tends to draw less power<br>
than it's older counterparts, even with increased clockspeeds, thanks to<br>
advances in microchips. Not that it makes it all well and good, but at<br>
least on the electrical side (CO2) new hardware is often more efficient.<br>
<br>
Agreed on the waste and fabrication, however.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes. <a href="http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/computer-power-consumption.html">http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/computer-power-consumption.html</a><br>
<br>The popularity of portable computers tend to reduce energy consumption as well.<br><br>The electrical energy consumption is linked to carbon emissions.<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Rodrigo Pereira wrote:<br>
> Promote free software as a green technology too. Proprietary software<br>
> always needs hardware upgrades and its create a lot of dangerous trash<br>
> of "obsolete" hardware.<br>
><br>
> Technological trash have a lot of dangerous chemical products that is<br>
> agresive to nature.<br>
> "Fast computers" that support windows 7 consumes much more energy and<br>
> consumes a lot of energy to manufacture too.<br>
><br>
> Rodrix<br>
><br>
> 2009/10/26, Ed Galligan <<a href="mailto:ed.galligan@gmail.com">ed.galligan@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> I assume everyone's well aware of Toyota's alleged attempts to prevent<br>
>> competitors developing "green" technology (<br>
>> <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640553503576637.html" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640553503576637.html</a> )<br>
>><br>
>> Whatever the specific relevance of that case, it is at least the kind of<br>
>> well recognisable brand/product that's easy to relate to when explaining to<br>
>> people the need for green technology transfer, and the dangers of<br>
>> restrictive commerce oriented patents.<br>
>><br>
>>> I think there's another way in which Pirates can gain electorally from<br>
>>> the climate issue. Our core competency is on internet and copmuting<br>
>>> policy, and the internet and computers are seen as high technology.<br>
>>> Therefore it ought to be easy ofr PP to gain an imiage of being<br>
>>> comfortable with, understanding, and in favour of technology, and able<br>
>>> to propose appropriate technological solutions to making everyone's<br>
>>> lives better.<br>
>> Tele-commuting?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Rodrigo Pereira <<a href="mailto:rodripe@gmail.com">rodripe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> The transfer of green technology is similar to the problem of software<br>
>>> patents. Several tecnology use "parts" of other patented tecnology would<br>
>>> be<br>
>>> impossible to pay royalties. In the development of software, technological<br>
>>> transfer is essential.<br>
>>><br>
>>> ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Rodrix<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.partidopirata.org" target="_blank">http://www.partidopirata.org</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2009/10/25 Amelia Andersdotter <<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com">teirdes@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2009/10/24 Philip Hunt <<a href="mailto:cabalamat@googlemail.com">cabalamat@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We might even be able to take votes from the greens on this. Green<br>
>>>>> parties are of course concerned about this issue, but the politicies<br>
>>>>> of some Green parties have a distinct anti-technological edge[1],<br>
>>>>> which turns off some voters. Pirate parties could pick up some of<br>
>>>>> those votes.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Yes! Exactly!<br>
>>>> I also know for a fact it will make it easier for us to build broader<br>
>>>> alliance with a larger number of organisations: that also means we can<br>
>>>> get<br>
>>>> more benefits out of less work (hopefully), in terms of publicity and<br>
>>>> work<br>
>>>> done.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Amelia Andersdotter<br>
>>>> Kommunikationansvarig UPF<br>
>>>> Lissabon-MEP<br>
>>>> +46 738436779<br>
>>>><br>
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