"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">the 80-20% argument here seems to assume that everyone who fileshares will automatically be willing to support any filesharing-related political movement (or will even have the remotest interest in the politics behind it) - this is not the case."</span><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Of course not, there is a very little part of the general population that would consider engaging in politics until election day when the interest is peaking or we would have millions of members. The 80-20% argument refers to these people in my opinion.<br>
</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Ed Galligan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ed.galligan@gmail.com">ed.galligan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>@Glenn Kerbein, @Brian McNeil</div><div>Brian has stated that the GPS/knife analogy is "wrong in quite a number of ways" - and then continues by describing how bittorrent works and giving some (seemingly irrelevant) history of TPB's PR habits, neither of which demonstrated to me how the analogy is "wrong" in any way whatever.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Despite that, I do think I'd have to side with rms and charly on this, not because I take issue with TPB, but simply because of the perception of us as "The Pirate Bay Party" - the 80-20% argument here seems to assume that everyone who fileshares will automatically be willing to support any filesharing-related political movement (or will even have the remotest interest in the politics behind it) - this is not the case.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Brian McNeil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org" target="_blank">brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 08:15 +0100, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:<br>
> We are actually saying the same thing although I begun by leaving the<br>
> % out<br>
> of the picture, to make it clear we should not need to worry about the<br>
> big<br>
> masses that can not make a clear distinction between TPB and PP since<br>
> most<br>
> of our supporters are doing there research why the debate regarding<br>
> the<br>
> clear line of distinction between TPB and PP is overrated.<br>
<br>
</div>I see one possible approach. A PP hosted/controlled landing page that is<br>
aimed specifically at people using certain types of file sharing to<br>
commit copyright infringement.<br>
<br>
You can clearly, and up-front, disavow any approval of copyright<br>
infringement ("Don't join the Pirate Party if you just want free TV and<br>
movies"), then present the aspects of PP philosophy that they might care<br>
about. Most coming from somewhere like TPB will just leave, but you'd<br>
net some.<br>
<div><div><br>
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