<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div class="im">>> >>> I am just freely accessing to culture.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> And the way you do it, you make it pretty less interesting for<br>
>> artists<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> "produce" new "culture".<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> That's why there was no music before copyright was invented, I<br>
>> suppose?<br>
>><br>
>> Come on. You can do this better. Do you really see no difference<br>
>> beetween<br>
>> a shepherd playing flute and beethoven or madonna?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> Madonna? Do you really want me to answer? :P How many records did<br>
> Beethoven<br>
> sell when he was alive?<br>
<br>
</div>That's the point. That time the modell to sell music was totally<br>
different. Would you like it, if musicians would be only paied by rich<br>
people who allow just their friends to visit the concerts?<br>
<br>
The biggest problem of the music industrie is (according to the ceo of<br>
sony music germany), that due to less money especially new artists don't<br>
get the chance to produce good records. Without those records, you don't<br>
have anything to share. And at the end, you do not have a concert to<br>
visit. :9<br></blockquote><div><br>I also have to add that there's never been so many live concerts as nowadays, and as the piece of news I linked before, people are paying the double than years before, and at the same time records are the lowest in decades, so your argument here makes not so much sense. <br>
<br><br>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Eduardo ,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I've said this before and it seems that I need to say it again: In<br>
> Spain you're legally allowed to download music.<br>
<br>
</div>From noncommercials sites. As soon as someone gains money be spreading<br>
music, he'll be prosecuted.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes,
but if they link to a torrent, they earn money from ads and they don't
have a tracker, they are not doing anything illegal. There's a sentence
or two on this matter.<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im"><br>
> It's our right to do<br>
> so. And yes, if you record your music in a studio it can be costly,<br>
> but that doesn't change the fact. And I also think that if artists<br>
> don't want their music to be shared, they shouldn't put it in the<br>
> tubes.<br>
<br>
</div>If you are not strong enough, to protect your work, I just take it away.<br>
Is that the pirate way? I thought pirates would respect other's wishes -<br>
unless they'd got harmed by respecting them.<br></blockquote><div><br>Artists want us to buy ice to the ice seller, we are just buying new refrigerators.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im"><br>
> Music existed before the industry and it will exist after it.<br>
> Their failed business model is not my problem. They should adapt to<br>
> the new technologies. Ice sellers could have protested all they wanted<br>
> when refrigerators started to appear.<br>
<br>
</div>So from your point of view it is fair and right to consume music, just<br>
because the creators cannot protect it?</blockquote><br>
I think what he's trying to say is that you can not stop technological advances like those. <br></div></div>