<html><body><span style="font-family:Arial; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>To add to this, if you take major record companies out of the equation, who loses out? </div>
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<div>Presumably the point of those companies is to be able to produce merchandise, including CDs, on a larger scale than an artist could by themselves, and to finance marketing campaigns for that music.</div>
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<div>Tonight I'm going to see a guy called Frank Turner play in London. Had I not ('illegally') downloaded his music I would not be going, that's a plain fact, since I wouldn't have heard of him (unless I'd happened upon him on myspace, again free). </div>
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<div>The price of the ticket was more than the price of his CD. He gets larger proportion of the money from the ticket than he would from the album (though it was released on an independent label for what it's worth).</div>
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<div>If he had to choose between me buying the album or going to his gig, which would he choose? Logically, the gig - which I would not be going to but for the original download. He's playing Shepherds Bush Empire, a fairly large venue for an artist who isn't known for scaling the charts. He would be playing a smaller venue and making less money were it not for illegal downloads, I very much suspect.</div>
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<div>If he then were to make enough money to be able to produce his own CDs, outside of a record label, for those who want them, he has proven the redundancy of record companies and the backwardness of the current recorded artist system. I'm just using him as an example as I'm seeing him tonight, but it's fairly sound logic to my mind.</div>
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<div >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Protest certain musicians?<BR>From: David Arcos <david.arcos@gmail.com><BR>Date: Thu, October 29, 2009 10:06 am<BR>To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<BR><A href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</A><BR><BR>
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<DIV class=im><BR>David Arcos wrote:<BR><BR><BR>So it's a circle: the musician releases the songs, people listens to the songs (the artist gets famous) and goes to the concerts, so the musician gets paid and can compose and release more songs.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></span></body></html>