<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">>> You mean a work, that cannot be easily copied?<br>
><br>
> Per definition a normal 8 - 5 work is not as a music artist, you can not<br>
> copy the work someone does at the cash register in a supermarket, can you,<br>
> cay you copy the food that he charges his customers for? Nope, that is not<br>
> in the scope of a 3d printer.. ;)<br>
<br>
</div>So if an artist practices 8-5 a day so he can play his instruments better,<br>
you would not accept this as work?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The artist has a message to convey through his music and he prefer to do it between 8 - 5, why would I object?!? I am saying per definition a 8 - 5 work and then I point to the kind of work most people are payed to do 40 hours a week and they are not artists I'm afraid.</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">
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>> > I do not feel like there revenue stream is my problem to be honest.<br>
>><br>
>> Well, if you do not want to pay artists for working, I hope you only<br>
>> consume free art - as there are hundreds of terabytes out there. Simply<br>
>> taking something because you can do so is a little bit unfair - from my<br>
>> point of view.<br>
>><br>
> I pay them without paying myself, most radio channels on the net that<br>
> you<br>
> can stream are financed by advertising like it works on Spotify, Shoutcast<br>
> etc.<br>
<br>
</div>So you do pay for music. :)<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>Well, with that argument we all pay, radio is financed by taxes or/and advertising. The same applies to most streaming music on the net. I never said I do not pay, I just said that it should not be my problem if the music industry has a failing business model. </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">
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> Please tell me how to live in this world and only consume free art, you<br>
> have<br>
> to find a very very very isolated island to avoid being spammed with<br>
> commercial media.<br>
<br>
</div>You can download tons of free music from the internet. Music, where the<br>
artists are glad if you share it. I prefere to listen to that kind of<br>
music instead of download stuff from people, that pay lawyers to rip of<br>
poor mothers.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div>As I explained before, I prefer to stream rather then download music due to getting tiered of music quickly. I have downloaded music that artists wanted to share in the past. I used to have a big collection of .mod files on the Atari in the 90's for example and later mp3s, but I got tired of maintaining large archives of music that was quickly becoming obsolete in my opinion. I also got tiered of buying music that became obsolete too quickly, besides the point that you could not customize the songs on the CD's and the lifetime expectancy was short in relationship to wear and tear.. And then came the copy on CD's protection and I had enough of them..</div>
<div><br></div><div>I made it clear before that you have to live on a very very very little island to not get spammed by the music industry, thus even if you do not actively finance the lawyers by actively listening to music that is commercially produced, you still get influenced by music from people around you that comes from a commercial source. Let's say you even find the free alternative and tell your friends about where some of them buys the commercial version thus financing the lawyers..</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div> PPI / PPSE member</div></div>