On 3 nov. 09, at 20:37, F?lix Robles wrote:<br><br>> I'm not saying there shouldn't have been referendum, but the treaty<br>
> would have failed again an that would have been a huge problem! The<br>
> Lisbon treaty is a great improvement on the old treaties and makes the<br>
> EU a more democratic an better functioning body. It's by no means as<br>
> democratic as it could/should be, nor does it function as effectively<br>
> as it should/could, but a failure of the treaty would have caused<br>
> serious problems in the EU and (this is important) in every single<br>
> member state!<br><br>I wonder what your definition of democracy is and where you get the silly idea, that the earth would stop spinning, because free citizens refuse to sign a contract they do not understand.<br><br>
I share <span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"><span style="visibility: visible;" id="search">Vaclav Klaus´ enthusiasm </span></span>of the EU project, and Im slightly worried about the enthusiasm of the word "democracy"<span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"><span style="visibility: visible;" id="search">.</span></span> The concept of democracy is used to justify just about anything its humanly possible to concieve, but the actual meaning is: Rule by the majority of the people". If we are to claim that the Eu is an democratic institustion, is it then too much to ask, that we actually act accordingly? Agreeing to this new contract, without asking the citizens of EU, is not an act in defense of democracy, but quite the opposite.<br>
<br>Now, I dont believe in democracy at all to begin with, and that obviously puts me well of the partys line of thought, so perhaps its just time to migrate to the US PP, where they have a simple constitution even my 12 year old daughter understands. <br>
<br>"We the people..."<br>