<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/6 Félix Robles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:redeadlink@gmail.com">redeadlink@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Would have been illegal to add that they would need a court ourder (authorization of a judge) to cut off internet?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good question, I doubt we are experts in EU law, it is very complex they say.. </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>If the answer is no, why didn't they add that?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>EU politics? Seams more complex then EU law..</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>And if the answer is yes, why didn't they change the law so it's illegal to cut off internet whatsoever?<div>
<div></div><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div>The official explanation is that they are not allowed to interfere with member state law in such detail.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div>
<div> PPI / PPSE member</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The main problem with the telecom package was that it was too specific so could not be approved so I guess the official explanation is true, but only time will tell.<div><br></div><div>You can read more about it on Christian's blog in English, in particular look at point 4:</div>
<div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:21px">Although the word ”court” is not used, the wording very strongly suggests that some sort of court should be involved."</span></div>
<div><a href="http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/" target="_blank">http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/</a></div><div><br></div><div>
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- Nicolas<br><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2009/11/6 Félix Robles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:redeadlink@gmail.com" target="_blank">redeadlink@gmail.com</a>></span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
And is that explanation true?<div><div></div><div><br><br>And, anyway, if that explanation was true, why would they support a law that allows the administration (A) the power to cut off internet without (B) the authorization of a judge anyway? How is possible to determine to cut off or not a internet connection without spying the communications? Have they thought about that?<div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de" target="_blank">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
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Félix Robles wrote:<br>
> Well, I'm a simple member of the Spanish Pirate Party and we have already<br>
> stated that we are against on the Swedish Piratepartiet's stand on<br>
> theTelecoms Package. I'm not representing my whole party now (perhaps,<br>
> maybe, another person will be designated for that later) but *I personally<br>
> ask*:<br>
><br>
> Why? *Why did the swedish Piratepartiet agree* with the Telecoms Package<br>
> when it allows* to cut off internet without the previous authorization of<br>
> a judge*? Can any swedish member of the Piratpartiet explain it??<br>
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</div>The official explanation is, that the EU has not the right to order the<br>
authorization of a judge...<br>
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