The main problem with the telecom package was that it was too specific so could not be approved so I guess the official explanation is true, but only time will tell.<div><br></div><div>You can read more about it on Christian's blog in English, in particular look at point 4:</div>
<div><br></div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 21px; ">Although the word ”court” is not used, the wording very strongly suggests that some sort of court should be involved."</span></div>
<div><a href="http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/">http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
- Nicolas<br><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/6 Félix Robles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:redeadlink@gmail.com">redeadlink@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
And is that explanation true?<br><br>And, anyway, if that explanation was true, why would they support a law that allows the administration (A) the power to cut off internet without (B) the authorization of a judge anyway? How is possible to determine to cut off or not a internet connection without spying the communications? Have they thought about that?<div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de" target="_blank">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
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Félix Robles wrote:<br>
> Well, I'm a simple member of the Spanish Pirate Party and we have already<br>
> stated that we are against on the Swedish Piratepartiet's stand on<br>
> theTelecoms Package. I'm not representing my whole party now (perhaps,<br>
> maybe, another person will be designated for that later) but *I personally<br>
> ask*:<br>
><br>
> Why? *Why did the swedish Piratepartiet agree* with the Telecoms Package<br>
> when it allows* to cut off internet without the previous authorization of<br>
> a judge*? Can any swedish member of the Piratpartiet explain it??<br>
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</div>The official explanation is, that the EU has not the right to order the<br>
authorization of a judge...<br>
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