<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That draft never was ratified. <div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; "><div style="margin-right: 1em; margin-top: 0.4em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; "><dic-list><dic bundle-id="com.apple.dictionary.NOAD"><d:entry xmlns:d="http://www.apple.com/DTDs/DictionaryService-1.0.rng" id="grub" class="entry" style="display: block; margin-top: 0em; margin-right: 0em; margin-left: 0em; margin-bottom: 1em; "><span class="hwGrp"><span d:priority="2" d:dhw="1" class="hw" style="font-size: 150%; "><span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">grub</span></span><span class="pronGrp"><span d:pr="US" type="US" class="pr" style="font-family: HiraMinPro-W3; "> |grəb|</span></span></span><span class="SB" style="display: block; margin-left: 1em; text-indent: -1em; "><span class="prelim"><span d:ps="1" class="ps" style="font-weight: normal; ">noun</span></span><span d:abs="1" class="sense" style="display: block; "><span class="sn" style="font-weight: 600; ">1 </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">the <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">larva</span> of an insect, esp. a beetle.</span><span d:priority="2" class="specUse" style="display: block; text-indent: 0px; "><span class="MS" style="display: block; "><span class="lbl" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 80%; ">• </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">a <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">maggot</span> or small caterpillar.</span></span></span></span><span d:abs="1" class="sense" style="display: block; "><span class="sn" style="font-weight: 600; ">2 </span><span d:priority="2" class="regLabel" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light; font-size: 80%; ">informal </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">food </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>a popular bar serving excellent grub.</span></span></span><span class="SB" style="display: block; margin-left: 1em; text-indent: -1em; margin-top: 1em; "><span class="prelim"><span d:ps="1" class="ps" style="font-weight: normal; ">verb </span><span d:priority="2" class="infGrp">(<span class="inf" style="font-weight: 600; "> <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">grubbed</span> </span><span class="pronGrp"><span type="US_IPA" class="pr" style="font-family: HiraMinPro-W3; ">|grəbd|</span></span>, <span class="inf" style="font-weight: 600; ">grub<span class="hsb"></span>bing </span><span class="pronGrp"><span type="US_IPA" class="pr" style="font-family: HiraMinPro-W3; ">|grəbɪŋ|</span></span>)</span><span d:priority="2" class="gramGrp" style="font-weight: normal; "> [<span class="syntax" style="font-weight: normal; "> intrans. </span>]</span></span><span class="sense" style="display: block; "><span class="sn" style="font-weight: 600; ">1 </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">dig or poke <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">superficially</span> at the earth; dig shallowly in soil </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>the damage done to pastures by <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">badgers</span><span class="bold" style="font-weight: 600; font-style: italic; ">grubbing <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">for</span> </span><span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">worms</span>.</span><span d:priority="2" class="specUse" style="display: block; text-indent: 0px; "><span class="MS" style="display: block; "><span class="lbl" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 80%; ">• </span><span d:priority="2" class="gramGrp" style="font-weight: normal; ">[<span class="syntax" style="font-weight: normal; "> trans. </span>] </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; "><span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">remove</span> (something) <span apple_mouseover_highlight="1">from</span> the earth by digging it up </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>all the vines are <span class="bold" style="font-weight: 600; font-style: italic; ">grubbed up </span>and the land left fallow for a few years.</span></span><span class="MS" style="display: block; "><span class="lbl" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 80%; ">• </span><span d:priority="2" class="gramGrp" style="font-weight: normal; ">[<span class="syntax" style="font-weight: normal; "> trans. </span>] </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">clear (the ground) of roots and stumps </span><span d:priority="2" class="exGrp"><span class="lbl">: </span><span d:priority="2" class="gramGrp" style="font-weight: normal; ">[as <span class="syntax" style="font-weight: normal; ">n. </span>] </span><span class="formGrp" style="font-weight: normal; ">(<span class="f" style="font-weight: 600; "> grubbing</span>)</span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "> construction operations including clearing and grubbing.</span></span></span></span></span><span class="sense" style="display: block; "><span class="sn" style="font-weight: 600; ">2 </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">search for something in a clumsy and unmethodical manner; rummage </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>I began grubbing about in the wastepaper basket to find the envelope.</span><span d:priority="2" class="specUse" style="display: block; text-indent: 0px; "><span class="MS" style="display: block; "><span class="lbl" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 80%; ">• </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">do demeaning or humiliating work in order to achieve something </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>she has achieved material independence without having to <span class="bold" style="font-weight: 600; font-style: italic; ">grub for </span>it.</span></span><span class="MS" style="display: block; "><span class="lbl" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 80%; ">• </span><span d:priority="2" class="gramGrp" style="font-weight: normal; ">[<span class="syntax" style="font-weight: normal; "> trans. </span>] </span><span class="def" style="font-weight: normal; ">achieve or acquire (something) in such a way </span><span d:priority="2" class="ex" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="lbl" style="font-weight: normal; ">: </span>they were grubbing a living from garbage pails.</span></span></span></span></span><span d:priority="2" class="drvBlock" style="display: block; margin-top: 1em; text-indent: 0px; "><span class="lbl" style="font-size: 90%; ">DERIVATIVES</span><span id="grub_0" class="subEnt" style="display: block; "><span class="l" style="font-weight: 600; ">grub<span class="hsb"></span>ber </span><span class="pronGrp"><span type="US_IPA" class="pr" style="font-family: HiraMinPro-W3; ">|ˈgrəbər|</span><span type="UK_IPA" class="pr" style="font-family: HiraMinPro-W3; "> |ˈgrʌbə|</span></span><span class="ps" style="font-weight: normal; "> noun</span></span></span><span d:priority="2" class="etymBlock" style="display: block; margin-top: 1em; text-indent: 0px; "><span class="lbl" style="font-size: 90%; ">ORIGIN </span><span class="date" style="font-weight: normal; "><span class="lang" style="font-weight: normal; ">Middle English </span></span>: perhaps related to <span class="lang" style="font-weight: normal; ">Dutch </span><span class="ff" style="font-weight: 600; font-style: italic; ">grobbelen</span>, also to <span class="xrefGrp"><span class="xref"><span class="x" style="font-weight: 600; font-variant: small-caps; ">grave </span><span class="hm" style="vertical-align: super; font-size: 50%; ">1 </span></span></span>.</span></d:entry></dic></dic-list></div></span><div><div>On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Marco Confalonieri wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hello,<br>sorry for this message, I know this is not an help ML for the english<br>language, but I'm translating the Draft C of the Manifesto to italian:<br><br><a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_Draft_C">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_Draft_C</a><br><br>I have some problems translating this: "To this end, we do establish these<br>Pirate Parties around the world, and state our common purpose in this our<br>manifesto of action, so that society will not collapse as people grub for<br>whatever they can grab now, without thought or care for the future."<br><br>In particular the piece I have problems with is: "so that society will not<br>collapse as people grub for whatever they can grab now, without thought or<br>care for the future.".<br><br>What does "grub" mean in this context? I have problems even understanding if<br>it's a noun or a verb. In the former case would it be in the sense of larva?<br>In the latter, some rarely used form of past tense of "to grab"? (but it<br>should be "grabbed").<br><br>Marco Confalonieri<br>Partito Pirata Italiano<br>http://partito-pirata.it<br><br><br><br>____________________________________________________<br>Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>