That's not true at all.<br><br>1) The Manifesto was voted, the Amends were voted.<br><a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_First_Voting_Cast_Votes" target="_blank">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_First_Voting_Cast_Votes</a><br>
Every pirate party chose the way to vote the amends. In Spain, each member of the party voted each amends.<br><br>2) The Manifesto (and the Amends) was not done by a single-man in a single-session. It was discussed and discussed and discussed for several months, and there was one person representing each party:<br>
<a href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto#Who" target="_blank">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto#Who</a><br><br>3) The Manifesto wan't gonna be definitive, but a first version to be improved over the time.<br>
<br>4) The Manifesto failed because it was boycotted by PiratPartiet. Yes, I know that they were in pre-elections and had millions of things to do, and I can understand that the manifesto was not a priority. But, in the long term, the Manifesto is very important.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Reinier Bakels <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl">r.bakels@planet.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I am becoming a bit confused: is there actually a document, a sentence, anything, that is (more-or-less) "official" and on what (almost) all the Pirate Parties agree?<br>
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No, afaik there is not. By the end of 2008, the manifesto "A-B-C" project was abandoned by most contributors after heavy flame wars, and in the end is really was the project of a single man, Carlos Ayala. During the Helsinki meeting early this year, it was *not* discussed at all. Carlos was disappointed, but he was pretty alone.<br>
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The Uppsala document (composed during the summer 2008 meeting) wasn't so much intended as *the* PP "Manifesto", but more the by-product of a (very useful) workshop, a mental exercise to better understand PP goals and strategies.<br>
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I wrote a one page "PPI Principles" document for the Helsinki meeting (see attachment), more to provide an alternative than because I believe(d) that a manifesto was (or is) a priority. We spent little time on it in the meeting, fortunately. The purpose of a political party is to gain votes, and a "philosophical" documents like a manifesto should be judged from that perspective: does it help to get more votes? As you know, actually deceptively few voters read party programs.<br>
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I won't repeat here why I believe that the A-B-C manifesto's are not suitable as *the* PP manifesto (else I unleash another flame war, I am afraid).<br><font color="#888888">
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