Maps indicating where some performances might be illegal to record, where ownership rights are asserted over public space image capturing, entities that claim ownership of the works and ideas of students and faculty, and other such spaces might very well be incredibly important as more and more new law is laid down. I've seen some excellent maps made of public space cameras that could easily, eventually, have trips auto route around them or at least provide alerts when in range. I wonder a lot what: <a href="http://www.bloomingtonsecuritycameras.com/map.html">http://www.bloomingtonsecuritycameras.com/map.html</a> looks like in a few years with full deployment of location aware mobile devices. <div>
<br></div><div>All I'm sayin'.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm afraid people think just like the Dutch in Sweden, but I tend to think there is a grater awareness of the dangers due to PPSE and there issues.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div> PPI / PPSE member</div>
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<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Reinier Bakels <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl" target="_blank">r.bakels@planet.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<blockquote style="border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;padding-left:5px;padding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px">
<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">Are you
talking about privacy? That's something else - and perhaps more imptorant.
Hope that people in Sweden don't think like many Dutch people: "we need more
camera's in public space to warrant our safety". Or like Angela Merkel, who
said: if there is any technology that can protect us against terrorism, we
should not refraiin from using it!</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">Allegedly, modern surveillance camera's are no longer
monitored by humans, but by computers programmed to automatically detect
disorders. Some of those camera's have microphones too.</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">The
next nightmare is that people get fined for copyright infringement if the
whistle or sing a song that happens to be copyrighted.</font></div><div><div></div><div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:14
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pp.int.general] map of
intellectual property rights in lund</div>
<div><br></div>With the ever growing integration of camera location metadata,
google maps, and picassa I would say that it is more than just clever to make
such tools, but geolocational awareness with such a list might be all that
stands between a citizen and realizing the possibility of violation before it
is too late. This envelope has been raised and it's really the type of
survey that I would love to see international teams of volunteers working
on.
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<div>At least, I think so. I feel like the 'free culture' fight is very
much on the defensive, and I don't like the idea of someone claiming rights
over recordings taken in public space. <br>
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<div>Amelia, you are an AWESOME MEP :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Amelia Andersdotter
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com" target="_blank">teirdes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">2009/12/7 Reinier Bakels <<a href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl" target="_blank">r.bakels@planet.nl</a>>:<br>
<div>>> i've semi-produced an image/tour of
intellectual property rights in<br>>> the city of
Lund.<br>>><br>> It reminds me of <a href="http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/" target="_blank">http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/</a> which describes
a<br>> (word censored by RMS) tour of New York.<br>> One of the
authors, professor Jams Boyle later explained that most of the<br>>
problems shown in the comic strip actually could have been addressed
by<br>> claiming "fair use". Which does not exist in Europe. (Uh, does
that mean<br>> that European copyright is admittedly
unfair?)<br>><br><br></div>Oh! Thx :)<br><br>Perhaps I should make one of
those as well. (yes!)<br><br>cordially,<br>
<div><br>> reinier<br>>
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