I'm afraid people think just like the Dutch in Sweden, but I tend to think there is a grater awareness of the dangers due to PPSE and there issues.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div> PPI / PPSE member</div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Reinier Bakels <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl">r.bakels@planet.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">Are you
talking about privacy? That's something else - and perhaps more imptorant.
Hope that people in Sweden don't think like many Dutch people: "we need more
camera's in public space to warrant our safety". Or like Angela Merkel, who
said: if there is any technology that can protect us against terrorism, we
should not refraiin from using it!</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">Allegedly, modern surveillance camera's are no longer
monitored by humans, but by computers programmed to automatically detect
disorders. Some of those camera's have microphones too.</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">The
next nightmare is that people get fined for copyright infringement if the
whistle or sing a song that happens to be copyrighted.</font></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ryan.martin@pirate-party.us" href="mailto:ryan.martin@pirate-party.us" target="_blank">Ryan Martin</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank">Pirate Parties
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:14
AM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pp.int.general] map of
intellectual property rights in lund</div>
<div><br></div>With the ever growing integration of camera location metadata,
google maps, and picassa I would say that it is more than just clever to make
such tools, but geolocational awareness with such a list might be all that
stands between a citizen and realizing the possibility of violation before it
is too late. This envelope has been raised and it's really the type of
survey that I would love to see international teams of volunteers working
on.
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<div>At least, I think so. I feel like the 'free culture' fight is very
much on the defensive, and I don't like the idea of someone claiming rights
over recordings taken in public space. <br>
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<div>Amelia, you are an AWESOME MEP :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Amelia Andersdotter
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com" target="_blank">teirdes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">2009/12/7 Reinier Bakels <<a href="mailto:r.bakels@planet.nl" target="_blank">r.bakels@planet.nl</a>>:<br>
<div>>> i've semi-produced an image/tour of
intellectual property rights in<br>>> the city of
Lund.<br>>><br>> It reminds me of <a href="http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/" target="_blank">http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/</a> which describes
a<br>> (word censored by RMS) tour of New York.<br>> One of the
authors, professor Jams Boyle later explained that most of the<br>>
problems shown in the comic strip actually could have been addressed
by<br>> claiming "fair use". Which does not exist in Europe. (Uh, does
that mean<br>> that European copyright is admittedly
unfair?)<br>><br><br></div>Oh! Thx :)<br><br>Perhaps I should make one of
those as well. (yes!)<br><br>cordially,<br>
<div><br>> reinier<br>>
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