I'm living in the Netherlands. The whole situation is just another excuse to get those nude scanners there. That attacker was a dubble spoin that's the reason there wasn't checked if he had anything with him. He was a agent and had some critical information about the Al-Qaida, but that was because he was a Al-Qaida fighter! It's just another excuse to.....<br>
<br><br>Jasper Mokkink, PPNL.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/6 Stephane Bakhos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nuitari@pirateparty.ca">nuitari@pirateparty.ca</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
This kind of news seems to happen all to often, and that's only the cases we get to know about.<br>
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:<br>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:14:20 +0100<br>
From: Nicolas Sahlqvist <<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>><br>
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As stated from some forums you basically need a minor explosion to set of<br>
the explosives in question, but they would cause a plane to go down it<br>
seems. It is therefore a very irresponsible move from the Slovakian<br>
government, it shows a complete disrespect for their citizens..<br>
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- Nicolas<br>
PPI / PPSE member<br>
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Thomas Burke <<a href="mailto:mrthomasjburke@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrthomasjburke@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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It is a very shocking and disturbing development. I dont know how<br>
volatile the explosives given to the last person were or what level of<br>
explosion would have occurred. Such things are a bit too worrying to<br>
think about. If they had gone off would we have received the same<br>
halfhearted "oh did we do a bad thing?" response?<br>
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2010/1/6 Nicolas Sahlqvist <<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicco77@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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This is outrageous! How can a countries police force put there own<br>
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unwillingly into harms way? I found more articles on the story:<br>
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<a href="http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/ireland/probe-continues-into-slovak-explosives-incident-440883.html" target="_blank">http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/ireland/probe-continues-into-slovak-explosives-incident-440883.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/slovakia-apologises-for-explosives-find-440834.html" target="_blank">http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/slovakia-apologises-for-explosives-find-440834.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://government.zdnet.com/?p=6728" target="_blank">http://government.zdnet.com/?p=6728</a><br>
The Slovak government has to do a lot more then apologise and express<br>
"profound regret" over the incident. I am very interested in how this<br>
unfolds why I CC'd the Slovak PP for any feedback they may have on this<br>
story.<br>
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- Nicolas<br>
PPI / PPSE member<br>
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Eduardo Robles Elvira <<a href="mailto:edulix@gmail.com" target="_blank">edulix@gmail.com</a><br>
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On a related note, yesterday I went to sleep just after reading the<br>
following shocking piece of news:<br>
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<a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/01/05/2319256/Slovak-Police-Planted-Explosives-On-Air-Travelers" target="_blank">http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/01/05/2319256/Slovak-Police-Planted-Explosives-On-Air-Travelers</a><br>
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"Slovakian Police have planted explosives on 8 unsuspecting air<br>
travelers. Seven were stopped by airport security, including one man<br>
arrested and held upon arriving at a Dublin airport. Unbelievably, one<br>
innocent traveler made it home with 90 grams of explosives, and had<br>
his flat surrounded by the police and bomb squad."<br>
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I mean, how can they do such a thing with a straight face? They could<br>
have died. A coat was enough for Jean Charles de Menezes to be shot<br>
seven times in the head. And yet the reports into the shooting of an<br>
innocent men found no members of the police guilty and security<br>
measures in the UK have continued to become more invasive. These<br>
people on the other hand were carrying explosives in an airport!<br>
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Testing of security systems? It sounds more like state terrorism to<br>
me. If the goverment want to do a test of airport security systems<br>
then fine but use someone who has agreed to do it. I hope those in<br>
charge of this operation go to jail.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Eduardo Robles Elvira (member of PIRATA, Spain)<br>
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PD: Any Pirate Party in Slovenia?<br>
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