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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">I like the simplicty of
your draft. "Principles"really should not be more than one A4 sheet (Americans
may use "letter" size paper), perhaps preferable half of it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">Your ten commandments
fall in a number of categories:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">- some are obvious, because
recognised human rights: 1 2 5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">- some are about
(internal) (co)operation: 4 7 8 9 10 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">The essence of pirates is
in 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">I once wrote a draft as
follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000081 size=4 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 size=4
face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 size=4 face=TrebuchetMS>
<P align=left><FONT size=3>1. The </FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><I><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT color=#000081
face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic>purpose
</I></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS>of the
"Pirate" movement is to strive for a balanced public information and culture
policy in the Information Age. "Information policy" includes (but is not
necessarily limited to):</P>
<P align=left> 1.1. So-called "intellectual property":
copyright, patent law, trademark law etc.</P>
<P align=left> 1.2. Privacy in the broadest sense of the
word.</P>
<P align=left>2. The </FONT></FONT></FONT><I><FONT color=#000081
face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic>problem </I></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS>is the lack of balance in the political
process:</P>
<P align=left> 2.1. "Intellectual property" policy presently
is geared almost exclusively to the interests of the potential rights owners,
instead of the general interest, for purposes such as the promotion of culture
and innovation.</P>
<P align=left> 2.2. Privacy is unduly sacrificed for safety
and law enforcement purposes.</P>
<P align=left>3. The </FONT></FONT></FONT><I><FONT color=#000081
face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic>method </I></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS>of the Pirate movement is to politicise these
issues, and to strive for a proper political representation of interests in
order to restore the balance of arguments on these issues.</P>
<P align=left> 3.1. Politics require a practical approach,
geared towards decision making. Coalitions and compromises are not excluded as a
matter of principle, if only the policy can be improved in the direction desired
by the Pirate movement.</P>
<P align=left> 3.2. Presently, the general public may not be
properly informed on the Pirate movement issues, if only due to persistent
disinformation campaigns by opponents. So there should be a strong emphasis on
educating the general public.</P>
<P> 3.3. Unlike some populist parties, Pirates do not question
the present political system </FONT></FONT></FONT><I><FONT color=#000081
face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS-Italic>per se</I></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT
color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS>, but exploit it.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081
face=TrebuchetMS><FONT color=#000081 face=TrebuchetMS>And finally I added home
"hot air" about ethics (= rules to be observed even without external
enforcement).</P></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao,
Saygilar, Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adiós, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei,
Yassou, Yoroshiku, Slán, Vinarliga, Kćr Kveđja<BR>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS
PhD LL.M. MSc<BR>private: Johan Willem Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The
Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126, GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, fax
+31 79 316 7221</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jorge@pirataria.org href="mailto:jorge@pirataria.org">Jorge</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 19, 2010 12:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [pp.int.general] PPI's
Consultation process and principles</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello people,<BR><BR>I have two questions for the pirate
parties leaders and activists.<BR><BR>1) Thinking about the PPs troubles that
we had recently in the list, I suggest a colaborative elaboration of some
PRINCIPLES to Pirate Parties. I mean the basic commitments that we have to
take. <BR><BR>We don't need a complicated process to write it. I think
we know more or less the basic. I start a draft <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Building_the_principles_of_PPI">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Building_the_principles_of_PPI</A><BR><BR>2)
Concerning the PPI new name "Pirate Parties International", I noticed that the
most of pirates continues to refer to PPI as Pirate Party International. We
did not have enough discussion about this change. The most activists of pirate
activists reffer to PPI as "Pirate Party International" because sounds much
better and they recognize that we are part of international movement with the
same aims, no matter national or regional differences. <BR><BR>I understand
that the former name suggest a great of responsabilities that the coreteam are
not ready to take. But it could change after the PPI Conference.<BR><BR>I
suggest to open a <B>public consultation</B> before decision. To do this
easely we can use tools like <A
href="http://www.reddit.com">reddit</A>.<BR><BR>Finally, I noticed that there
are links in the PPI'site to pirate parties that do not exist yet, like China
or South Africa; or fake site, like Peru (with a offensive message against
us). Who are that guys? We have to cheke better before to include a new PP in
our network.<BR><BR>best regards,<BR><BR>Jorge<BR>Partido Pirata -
Brasil<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.partidopirata.org">www.partidopirata.org</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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