<font size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial;">no, i've never saw any burqa </span><br style="font-family: Arial;" /><br style="font-family: Arial;" /><span style="font-family: Arial;">theoreticaly, in Belgium, burqa is ban for a long time by local police rules.</span><br style="font-family: Arial;" /><span style="font-family: Arial;">In 2005, there was a law's proposition to ban burqa but assembly </span></font>haven't gived his approval.<br />
some belgian commune made local rules and said : " <span class="short_text" id="result_box"><span title="il est interdit de se présenter dans
l'espace public masqué ou déguisé" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">it is forbidden to appear in public space hidden or disguised"<br />
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial" color="#000000">In NL, the debate on a burqa ban is over now (for as long as it lasts ...) but there was a proposal. Unfortunately the ground was a ban on (this type of) religious symbols. I think a much better ground is the risk that criminals may put on burqua's and attack busdrivers etc.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">There was an estimate that in my country (16 million inhabitants) about 50 women wer wearing burqa's! But someone told me that there are many more in the UK. I don't know about Belgium. I am once or twice a year in Brussels and I never seen one there too.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">In sum, in NL a burqa ban would be the wrong solution to a non-existing problem, with just symbolic value for politicians.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">QUESTION TO THE LIST: do you (all readers of this list) see lots of burqa's around you?</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <hr tabindex="-1" /> <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><strong>From:</strong> pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net on behalf of Stephane Bakhos<br />
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu 4/1/2010 10:01<br />
<strong>To:</strong> Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br />
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [pp.int.general] Belgium proposes to ban burqas, and masks, and dark sunglasses<br />
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<p><font size="2">> Richard Stallman ha scritto:<br />
>> Belgium is moving to ban people from covering their faces in public.<br />
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>> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/31/belgium-public-ban-burqa-niqab" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/31/belgium-public-ban-burqa-niqab</a><br />
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>> While I feel little sympathy towards burqas, religious motives are not<br />
>> the only reason to hide one's face. Protestors may not want the<br />
>> police to know who they are; this law will affect the political rights<br />
>> of everyone in Belgium.<br />
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>> Beyond that, hiding one's face is the only way to be anonymous in a<br />
>> society filled with face recognition cameras. The burqa, a detestable<br />
>> symbol of subjection, provides a convenient excuse to expose everyone<br />
>> to total surveillance. Big Brother would love this law.<br />
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>> Will dark sunglasses be illegal too?<br />
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> In Italy masking for the purpose of hiding one's identity has been outlawed<br />
> since 1931. Law n.152 issued in1975 states that using any mean to hide one's<br />
> identity without reasonable ground it's forbidden. There are special<br />
> exceptions for Carnival, Halloween and other similar events.<br />
> Covering the face for one's religion is considered "reasonable ground" and<br />
> attempts by local administration to extend the law to burqas and similar have<br />
> been shut down by the italian state council. Also wearing a full helmet is<br />
> allowed while you're on a motorcycle or similar, but you have to remove it<br />
> when you park the motorcycle and are on your feet. Dark sunglasses are<br />
> allowed because they do not cover the full face.<br />
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> Masking at public protests is expressly forbidden.<br />
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In Quebec a law was recently passed (or proposed) to ban burqas and niqabs<br />
in government settings, for either people seeking government services, or<br />
for people working for the government.<br />
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