I agree, PPI is not intended to be a party, rather a forum for parties, thereby the name "Pirate Parties International".<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div> PPI</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Justus Ršoemeth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:squig@dfpx.de">squig@dfpx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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As I wrote before, I don't think PPI should be 'used' for this, but we
should found a new european party for that.<br>
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PPI has a global scope, and in the short and mid-run should be a global
forum for all the pirate parties to raise their voice, a forum where
pirate parties can meet and a place hwre people who want to start a
pirate party in a country where there is none could go to to get
know-how and helping hands, as well as start-up infrastructure (forum,
maybe a wiki too?).<br>
If PPI would become the European party of the pirate movement all that
would be in jeopardy.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 22.04.2010, at 20:59, Partidul Piratilor wrote:</div>
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Talking about a European PPI like a political party and make
comparisons with other European examples will be out of the question
for a simple reason: there is no Europe wide political party. Even in
European Parliament they have groups wich unite parties by
similarities, and the groups do not decide what individual parties do.<span> </span></span></blockquote>
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<div>There are political parties on the european level. </div>
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<div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party</a></div>
<div>They get funding from the european parliament, even</div>
<div>if they are not yet in the EP. thefunding has to stay on </div>
<div>the european level and cannot be used to finance</div>
<div>national member parties. </div>
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<li>it must have in <b>at least one quarter of the Member States</b>,
one or both of the following:</li>
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<li><b>either</b> it must have <b>received at least 3% of the
votes</b> cast in each of those Member States at the most recent
European Parliament elections.</li>
<li><b>or</b> it must already be <b>represented by Members</b>,
whether Members of the European Parliament for those states, or Members
of the national Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional
Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of
those states.</li>
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<div>PPI could change some of its statutes and apply for such a
status when we have met these criteria, but this is not yet to decide.
We should be represented in parliaments in at least 7 european
countries, and i don't see it happen for at least 2 or 3 year at the
very optimistic (unrealistic) forecast. </div>
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<font size="3"><span style="font-size:12px">Gregory Engels</span></font></div>
<div>International Coordinator</div>
<div>Pirate Party of Germany</div>
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<div>mobile: +49 172 853 44 91</div>
<div><a>skype:gregory.engels</a></div>
<div><a>jabber:dichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de</a></div>
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