<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Hello Andrew,<br>
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What about braking the law intentionally in order to wake up the law<br>
regulators?! That is common practice in US I guess(?).<br></blockquote><div>It's fairly common for individuals and certain types of organizations, but as far as I know, political parties cannot without being disbanded.</div>
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So, defending yourself on court could be a epic win if you just "show" the<br>
real pirate statistics? But I know, you will be buried by the giant lawyer<br>
hired by the big company. This situation always makes me to think about flaws<br>
in US legal systems... -> more money u have more justice u can buy...<br>
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and not to flame but to conclude:<br>
In my humble opinion the idea is to mobilize people to make "digital but civil<br>
disobedience acts". At least I am doing it in Serbia. And I do it in every<br>
country I visit and call everyone to do the same!!!<br>
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and yes, US democracy works selectively...<br>
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Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:44:32 PM, you wrote:<br>
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Andrew> On 5/18/2010 10:31 AM, <a href="mailto:quemener.yves@free.fr">quemener.yves@free.fr</a> wrote:<br>
>> The legalization of non-commercial filesharing is a common reclamation of so many pirate parties...<br>
>> Which of them do not endorse this ?<br>
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</div>Andrew> Ah, were it so simple.<br>
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Andrew> In the Us, for instance, political parties can not condone or endorse<br>
Andrew> the breaking of laws. They can say "This law needs to be changed", but<br>
Andrew> thats all. It makes things a legal grey area, especially with TPB (who<br>
Andrew> under US law is (probably - IANAL!) a strong case for vicarious<br>
Andrew> infringement at least.<br>
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Andrew> At least its not as confusing as say the pot issue, where it's legal for<br>
Andrew> medical purposes in some states, but flat out illegal federally.<br>
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Andrew> US Election/campaign stuff is really messed up though. Thats why, 3.5<br>
Andrew> years after the party was formed, there's still paperwork in process.<br>
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Andrew> The US is actually pretty undemocratic when it comes to democracy...<br>
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>> ----- "Jerry Weyer" <<a href="mailto:jerry.weyer@pp-international.net">jerry.weyer@pp-international.net</a>> a écrit :<br>
>><br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I just want to note, that not every Pirate Party might want to be<br>
>>> associated with The Pirate Bay! I don't have any concrete example, but<br>
>>> we should not suppose that every Pirate Party wants to see its logo on<br>
>>> the Pirate Bay.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Greetings,<br>
>>> Jerry<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I think we should prioritize electoral races!<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello Wesley,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:13:50 PM, you wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Wesley> On 05/18/2010 04:09 PM, Daniel Hertz wrote:<br>
>>>>> Why not all th parties? A map of some sort?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Wesley> I think the ones with elections have a priority. But be my<br>
>>> guest to put<br>
>>> Wesley> a localized PP banner for every country. Fine with me :)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Wesley> Cheers,<br>
>>> Wesley> Wesley<br>
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>>> Best regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Aleksandar Blagojevic<br>
>>> Leader of Serbian Pirate Party and board member of PPI<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Aleksandar Blagojevic<br>
Leader of Serbian Pirate Party and board member of PPI<br>
<a href="http://piratskapartija.com" target="_blank">http://piratskapartija.com</a><br>
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