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Every important political movement has some allied media who creates awareness about this <br>movent interests, what we need is international and national pirate media.<br>Today, if you wan't to know about pirate news were do you go? lists, twitter? <br>We need something more mainstream.<br><br>Rodrigo<br><br>> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:27:38 +0200<br>> From: erik.lonroth@gmail.com<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Defend TPB<br>> <br>> There will be a significant symbolic loss - should TPB lose in the<br>> next, third, and final, instance of court in Sweden. (The High Court,<br>> or, Högsta Domstolen)<br>> <br>> Such a symbolic loss, could possibly be a fatal blow to the "Pirate<br>> movement" in Sweden. People will start think in terms of "if the<br>> highest court think it is wrong to share, then it must be wrong."<br>> <br>> Even if TPB as such is not such a relevant project any more, it still<br>> is a symbol over people acctually standing up against the<br>> "copy-right-maffia". Even if that never was the purpose, it still<br>> became a fact.<br>> <br>> This spectacle rasies a number of important questions that might be to<br>> late to think about once the trials are over:<br>> <br>> * Is the Pirate movement lacking the means to take on this incredibly<br>> strong opponent (such as IFIP etc.) ? If so, what are we missing in<br>> that case?<br>> <br>> * In Sweden, the Pirate party didn't do good at all in the elections<br>> and some people even regard the movement as "dead". Is that because<br>> our questions are not important enough, or why don't we gain a<br>> stronger position even though we multiplied our efforts tenfold this<br>> election ?<br>> <br>> * What can the Pirate movement around the world do to regain its<br>> positions as a global movement? With all due respect, but PPI is a<br>> very, very small group of people doing really, really little impact on<br>> peoples every day life. What can we do to change that?<br>> <br>> /Erik<br>> <br>> <br>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Johan Karlsson <johan@landslide.nu> wrote:<br>> > Also, this is only the middle act of three.<br>> ><br>> > In the Swedish justice system there is three trials for all (important)<br>> > cases. The first one is interesting because it will give you an idea of<br>> > whats going on. The last one is important because it delivers the actual<br>> > verdict.<br>> > The 2nd one that is going on right now just isnt interesting.<br>> ><br>> > Cheers<br>> > Johan<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:17 PM, lilo <al3lilo@autistici.org> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> >> Hash: SHA1<br>> >><br>> >> Il 03/10/2010 21:09, Amelia Andersdotter ha scritto:<br>> >> > On 10/03/2010 06:49 PM, Parti Pirate Tunisie wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> > The only thing we can do is create public attention.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > /a<br>> >><br>> >> \./ \./ \./<br>> >><br>> >> - --<br>> >> ~lilo<br>> >> ########<br>> >> "Lower your shields, and surrender your ship... RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."<br>> >> We, Borg.<br>> >> - -<br>> >> [Decks from 9 to 16: CONQUERED]<br>> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>> >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/<br>> >><br>> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMqNbDAAoJEAQgSEs79vpz3dEH+wbCMozMDNGbbYZHeDoO94O4<br>> >> TrACFBxM5Vj//Ep35pWvs6FqJia1zayc8ulTXXWDA2wrsk/Azm1vZ02AppwUesTV<br>> >> l3P0y2kNISYMqoI8yINUnyCMogr9XgU/9RaTb4tjKrQCy9kAcJzwnmgJ7hUV7dLD<br>> >> tQ9MUvZtHWnrBAUj/liPtpu/CnZG+86s+OR9p8184AyFtm7dgmyXrs5T0ePUvIrH<br>> >> CAcvLDddEJDjB/D8RZpRFHkmT8oqs45ihLMsYDze1ysoh83okmhRneGYxe3M2hgf<br>> >> HLV+3atCoMedPn0LLdIVGDS+cmFAYlARinWWE8Rlg+TeCnZjzIU6DYuVs2myYGo=<br>> >> =Xsrd<br>> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ____________________________________________________<br>> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> > pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br> </body>
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