Hello,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Am 10.10.2010 10:36, schrieb Gregory Engels:<br>
<div class="im">> But there are court rulings especially from Germany, that states that a<br>
> press<br>
> release is in fact copyrighted.<br>
> See this google translated Article about the LG Hamburg ruling<br>
> <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-recht24.de%2Fnews%2Furheberrecht%2F456.html" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-recht24.de%2Fnews%2Furheberrecht%2F456.html</a><br>
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</div>This was a very special case - the copying laywer did not state the<br>
source of the citations he used. He used content written by another<br>
laywer in a way as if it was written by himself.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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> And regarding the press releases of the Pirate Party of Hesse:<br>
> on the website where the press-releases are published<br>
> and where we get them from via the RSS stream<br>
> <a href="http://www.piratenpartei-hessen.de/presse" target="_blank">http://www.piratenpartei-hessen.de/presse</a><br>
><br>
> it says clearly on the bottom of the page that the material is<br>
> licensed under the<br>
> Creativ Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Germany License.<br>
> This license does not allow to "use them in the wild" but<br>
> mandate that the original author is attributed to (for example<br>
> with the sentence "the Pirate Party of Hesse tells in a press release<br>
> that,....")<br>
> and mandates that the publication, that derivates from a hessian<br>
> press release should itself be licensed under a cc license.<br>
<br>
</div>Well... We send the press releases via mail to some dozen peoples. I<br>
never attached any licence tags to my e-mails.<br></blockquote><div><br>Even if you don't attach any licence tags, it doesn't mean no licence applies! Public domain doesn't even exist is some countries!<br> </div>
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You mentioned the RSS feed. Its existence strengthens my view. If we did<br>
not want really simple syndication, it would be pretty dumbass to<br>
provide a RSS feed, wouldn't it? </blockquote><div><br>It's a difference if you provide someome with your work or let him use it without any strings attached! Also the legal implications might vary in different countries. We went with the safe road and wanted authorizations from every Pirate Party; that way noone can say to others "you used my press release without my authorization". <br>
<br>Of course this is all theoretical; when noone complains, nothing happens. But I'd rather ask everyone beforehand than fight afterwards.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Maybe this is a misunderstanding and there is no real need for exchange<br>
of press releases but for articles written by pirates? But even there I<br>
do not see the need to present someones elses work as the own. If I copy<br>
an article, I mention the author.<br></blockquote><div><br>It's always better when you can add you own name under a press release. The press release was created to help Parties with limited resources. Not every Pirate Party has 13.000 members and can find a team of several people writing a press release in 2-3 hours! Now they can chose their language, copy the text and send it out with their name on it. Especially for international topics this can be helpful. For me this is a practical application of "sharing is caring" and cooperation among Pirate Parties!<br>
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Btw. Nothing stopps you from mentionning the initial author. But you
have the choice of not mentionning it, which is also especially usefull
if you copy from several sources.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jerry<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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