If your domains names are seized by ICE go asap here <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><a href="http://lostservers.org">http://lostservers.org</a> and the guys at @telecomix will get them back online</span></font><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">you just have to fill a formular.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Best regards</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Francisco<br></span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/30 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp.international.general-request@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general-request@lists.pirateweb.net</a>></span><br>
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1. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Robert Renling)<br>
2. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (lilo)<br>
3. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (Jay Emerson)<br>
4. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (lilo)<br>
5. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Rados?aw Nadstawny)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:28:52 +0100<br>
From: Robert Renling <<a href="mailto:robert.renling@gmail.com">robert.renling@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure<br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
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I'd like to make everyone aware of <a href="http://dns.telecomix.org" target="_blank">http://dns.telecomix.org</a><br>
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I like Germany's Open NIC idea as well.<br>
><br>
> On Nov 29, 2010 6:21 PM, "kurrata" <<a href="mailto:kurrata@gmail.com">kurrata@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> As most of us know USA has power to take your domain names down if they<br>
>> think they don't match their definition of legal and they are doing it<br>
>> quite aggressive now.<br>
>> How about this little project to fix little bit at least this problem<br>
>><br>
>> We make our own domain name database so people can check real IP address<br>
>> of the sites they want to go to.<br>
>> ____________________________________________________<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:01:40 +0100<br>
From: lilo <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
<<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
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On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>
> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>
>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.<br>
><br>
<br>
[snip++]<br>
<br>
> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or<br>
> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to<br>
> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a<br>
> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.<br>
<br>
and God, i figure ....<br>
<br>
or not?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
- --<br>
~lilo~<br>
registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>
Debian-women<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:03:28 -0500<br>
From: Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
<<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
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Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?<br>
<br>
Would explain a lot....<br>
On Nov 29, 2010 7:01 PM, "lilo" <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>
>> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>
>>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> [snip++]<br>
><br>
>> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or<br>
>> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to<br>
>> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a<br>
>> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.<br>
><br>
> and God, i figure ....<br>
><br>
> or not?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> - --<br>
> ~lilo~<br>
> registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>
> Debian-women<br>
> - --<a href="mailto:donne@softwarelibero.it">donne@softwarelibero.it</a><br>
> ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero<br>
> freesoftware means LOVE :^)<br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:30:33 +0100<br>
From: lilo <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
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On 30/11/2010 01:03, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>
> Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?<br>
<br>
lol its possible, as lawyer ......<br>
<br>
my question was sarcastic. I felt pretty "enrich" his list.<br>
<br>
<br>
but we know,<br>
nuclear is LEGAL<br>
war is legal<br>
producing and selling weapons is too legal<br>
copyright is legal<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
really seems that our governments are on top of legality, and<br>
transparency and love for their people<br>
<br>
<quote>man, make your mind clear, are you sure you are a Pirate?</quote><br>
<br>
<br>
:-)<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
- --<br>
~lilo~<br>
registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>
<br>
Debian-women<br>
- --<a href="mailto:donne@softwarelibero.it">donne@softwarelibero.it</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:05:40 +0100<br>
From: Rados?aw Nadstawny <<a href="mailto:radoslaw.nadstawny@o2.pl">radoslaw.nadstawny@o2.pl</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure<br>
To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:28:27 +0000<br>
Jack <<a href="mailto:m2ys4u@gmail.com">m2ys4u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> There are already several alternative DNS roots, but they've never<br>
> gained much traction.<br>
><br>
<br>
They may not have have gained popularity, but what's important is that<br>
they're out there, for us to use when the need arises. You can see them<br>
as the underground waiting in case of situation on the surface getting<br>
bad enough. They're not centralised, not official, and not hugely<br>
popular, but all these can be viewed as advantages in certain<br>
circumstances.<br>
<br>
They're another good example of how neutrality is built into the core of<br>
the internet.<br>
<br>
Actually, OpenNIC looks very promising in that it resolves ICANN<br>
domains as well (so it can be used as a drop-in replacement DNS without<br>
the need of sacrificing anything).<br>
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