<p>Thank you and I love you.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 30, 2010 6:07 AM, "Francisco George" <<a href="mailto:francisco.george@gmail.com">francisco.george@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> If your domains names are seized by ICE go asap here<br>
> <a href="http://lostservers.organd">http://lostservers.organd</a> the guys at @telecomix will get them back<br>> online<br>> you just have to fill a formular.<br>> <br>> Best regards<br>> <br>> Francisco<br>
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>><br>>> 1. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Robert Renling)<br>>> 2. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (lilo)<br>>> 3. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (Jay Emerson)<br>>> 4. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (lilo)<br>
>> 5. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Rados?aw Nadstawny)<br>>><br>>><br>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>><br>>> Message: 1<br>>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:28:52 +0100<br>
>> From: Robert Renling <<a href="mailto:robert.renling@gmail.com">robert.renling@gmail.com</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure<br>>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>>> Message-ID:<br>>> <AANLkTindSBNrMYw-xaQ6z61qyuomuMmiT-67Pe1=<a href="mailto:96Jb@mail.gmail.com">96Jb@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>>><br>>> I'd like to make everyone aware of <a href="http://dns.telecomix.org">http://dns.telecomix.org</a><br>>><br>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I like Germany's Open NIC idea as well.<br>>> ><br>>> > On Nov 29, 2010 6:21 PM, "kurrata" <<a href="mailto:kurrata@gmail.com">kurrata@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> >> As most of us know USA has power to take your domain names down if they<br>
>> >> think they don't match their definition of legal and they are doing it<br>>> >> quite aggressive now.<br>>> >> How about this little project to fix little bit at least this problem<br>
>> >><br>>> >> We make our own domain name database so people can check real IP address<br>>> >> of the sites they want to go to.<br>>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>
>> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>>> >> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>>> >> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>
>> ><br>>> > ____________________________________________________<br>>> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>>> > <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
>> > <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> --<br>>> V?nligast,<br>>> Robert Renling<br>>> e: <a href="mailto:robert.renling@gmail.com">robert.renling@gmail.com</a><br>>> t: 070 285 92 83<br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>>> Message: 2<br>>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:01:40 +0100<br>>> From: lilo <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>
>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>>> <<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4CF43EE4.3000408@autistici.org">4CF43EE4.3000408@autistici.org</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>>><br>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>>> Hash: SHA1<br>>><br>>> On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>>> > On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>
>> >> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.<br>>> ><br>>><br>>> [snip++]<br>>><br>>> > It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or<br>>> > illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to<br>
>> > the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a<br>>> > court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.<br>>><br>>> and God, i figure ....<br>>><br>>> or not?<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> - --<br>>> ~lilo~<br>>> registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>>> Debian-women<br>>> - --<a href="mailto:donne@softwarelibero.it">donne@softwarelibero.it</a><br>
>> ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero<br>>> freesoftware means LOVE :^)<br>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</a><br>
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>> =rSz6<br>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>><br>>> Message: 3<br>>> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:03:28 -0500<br>>> From: Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>>> <<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
>> Message-ID:<br>>> <AANLkTimmqOjMBn+Vmq2suzxVwKwz_r+Ux=<a href="mailto:T0JyE8%2Bqhr@mail.gmail.com">T0JyE8+qhr@mail.gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:T0JyE8%252Bqhr@mail.gmail.com">T0JyE8%2Bqhr@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> ><br>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>>><br>>> Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?<br>>><br>>> Would explain a lot....<br>>> On Nov 29, 2010 7:01 PM, "lilo" <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>>> > Hash: SHA1<br>>> ><br>>> > On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>>> >> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>>> >>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.<br>
>> >><br>>> ><br>>> > [snip++]<br>>> ><br>>> >> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or<br>>> >> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to<br>
>> >> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a<br>>> >> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.<br>>> ><br>>> > and God, i figure ....<br>>> ><br>
>> > or not?<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > - --<br>>> > ~lilo~<br>>> > registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>>> > Debian-women<br>>> > - --<a href="mailto:donne@softwarelibero.it">donne@softwarelibero.it</a><br>
>> > ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero<br>>> > freesoftware means LOVE :^)<br>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>>> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>>> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</a><br>
>> ><br>>> > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM9D7fAAoJEE7GByMpYG53AaMH/ioiYcA11fUMMXl4cooRoaBL<br>>> > yfn250MGLVio+kB7XtJNaKJzvzsZATtKif85BeefthkLbYqw8x99W1YiBlRFu0vQ<br>>> > B0tjiNRsUZTFiAZUbNvszZHNHS6oQy6IzA9S3hslc3am6NsNdY0eVrXUSgSawhHU<br>
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>> > =rSz6<br>>> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>>> > ____________________________________________________<br>>> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>>> > <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
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>> ><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>><br>>> Message: 4<br>>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:30:33 +0100<br>>> From: lilo <<a href="mailto:al3lilo@autistici.org">al3lilo@autistici.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack<br>>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>>> <<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4CF445A9.4090305@autistici.org">4CF445A9.4090305@autistici.org</a>><br>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>>><br>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
>> Hash: SHA1<br>>><br>>> On 30/11/2010 01:03, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>>> > Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?<br>>><br>>> lol its possible, as lawyer ......<br>>><br>>> my question was sarcastic. I felt pretty "enrich" his list.<br>
>><br>>><br>>> but we know,<br>>> nuclear is LEGAL<br>>> war is legal<br>>> producing and selling weapons is too legal<br>>> copyright is legal<br>>> etc.<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> really seems that our governments are on top of legality, and<br>>> transparency and love for their people<br>>><br>>> <quote>man, make your mind clear, are you sure you are a Pirate?</quote><br>
>><br>>><br>>> :-)<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> - --<br>>> ~lilo~<br>>> registered GNUlinux user #527294<br>>><br>>> Debian-women<br>
>> - --<a href="mailto:donne@softwarelibero.it">donne@softwarelibero.it</a><br>>> ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero<br>>> freesoftware means LOVE :^)<br>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>
>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</a><br>>><br>>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM9EWkAAoJEE7GByMpYG53CQoIAJ1ZMbb2NMCkmG6S3NcxYm/R<br>>> 8mmpPNV61Ky1Qk1xG5zNcy+K2ia9Vz9Gira6QOqEuL5QZxsj0xmSdu2WE0IgVt9w<br>
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:05:40 +0100<br>>> From: Rados?aw Nadstawny <<a href="mailto:radoslaw.nadstawny@o2.pl">radoslaw.nadstawny@o2.pl</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>>> Message-ID: <20101130020540.7feebcad@radek-laptop><br>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br>
>><br>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:28:27 +0000<br>>> Jack <<a href="mailto:m2ys4u@gmail.com">m2ys4u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> > There are already several alternative DNS roots, but they've never<br>
>> > gained much traction.<br>>> ><br>>><br>>> They may not have have gained popularity, but what's important is that<br>>> they're out there, for us to use when the need arises. You can see them<br>
>> as the underground waiting in case of situation on the surface getting<br>>> bad enough. They're not centralised, not official, and not hugely<br>>> popular, but all these can be viewed as advantages in certain<br>
>> circumstances.<br>>><br>>> They're another good example of how neutrality is built into the core of<br>>> the internet.<br>>><br>>> Actually, OpenNIC looks very promising in that it resolves ICANN<br>
>> domains as well (so it can be used as a drop-in replacement DNS without<br>>> the need of sacrificing anything).<br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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