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I really didn't mean this as an attack against Rick, and am sorry if
it seemed as one.<br>
I wanted to describe the phenomenon that, as far as I can see,
pirates in general are rather unhappy with their political
leadership, independently of who was/is elected. In general that is
a good thing, but it sometimes makes for a climate in the
conversations that is not very friendly, and I think that is the
case here.<br>
I jokingly inserted the comment about Rick there, as he just stepped
down and everybody seems to praise him. Without knowing and Swedish
it is hard to really know what's going on precisely within PPSE (and
I frankly also lack the time to follow you guys closely), but I
never doubted that you also saw Rick and his actions in a critical
light. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my previous post.<br>
<br>
In short I agree with everything you wrote in your mail, and the 2nd
paragraph also rephrases the problem I wanted to actually discuss.
Please carry on ;-)<br>
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-J<br>
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On 03.01.11 12:42, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 January 2011 11:02, Justus Römeth <span
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<div>So basically, Pirates are not happy with their leadership
unless the name of the leader is Falkvinge.<br>
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That seems like a gross over-simplification. Many people have
been partly critical of Rick, but he has the time, the
ideological/organisational weight ("founder" and "former party
chairman" weights heavily for a party that managed to get EP
seats) and is very social, down-to-earth with almost anything
except sometimes women with whom he is just social, or used to
be. We had some media stuff about this in Sweden sometimes, I
guess, or I'm exaggerating, but my understanding is that he is
in a happy relationship just now.<br>
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Pirates seem to be generally dissatisfied with any kind of
leadership, which is also what makes Rick a good leader. He
more or less lets people do whatever they want, and then he
does what he wants to do and everyone is happy and get lots of
things done. I personally view organisations and bureaucracy
as needed only for handling money, because money is such an
extremely conflictful issue.<br>
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