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Andrew, nice memory you have :)<br>Jack, you're right, it doesn't imply it, i wasn't going for that, i was just questioning<br>the value of being serious. Why do we have to play the good old politician to make<br>changes?<br>I think the pirate movement is bigger than politics, is somewhat of a cultural revolution.<br><br>-rodrigo<br>> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:29:05 +0000<br>> From: m2ys4u@gmail.com<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Love and Solidarity to our Tunisian Brothers and Sisters<br>> <br>> That's somewhat of a false dichotomy. Being serious does not imply<br>> stealing, violating human rights and ignoring those whom we represent.<br>> <br>> Having not read any Kim Stanley Robinson novels, I can't really comment<br>> on that, but decentralisation also does not imply anarchy.<br>> <br>> --<br>> Jack Allnutt (PPUK)<br>> <br>> On 15/01/2011 03:07, Rodrigo dA wrote:<br>> > Nay, old parties were serious, top-down, hierarchical movements, and<br>> > their seriousness<br>> > didn't prevent them from stealing, violating human rights and ignoring<br>> > the people they<br>> > were supposed to represent.<br>> > The way i get pirate movements is playful, horizontal and decentralized.<br>> > Like in those<br>> > Kim Stanley Robinson novels.<br>> > <br>> > -rodrigo<br>> >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:03:03 +0000<br>> >> From: m2ys4u@gmail.com<br>> >> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Love and Solidarity to our Tunisian<br>> > Brothers and Sisters<br>> >><br>> >> I sincerely hope not.<br>> >><br>> >> Pirates are not "the youth gone wild". We're supposed to be a serious<br>> >> political movement not a bunch of anarchistic teenagers sitting at their<br>> >> computers raging at the grown-up world.<br>> >><br>> >> We're going to get nowhere if that's your frame of mind and/or the image<br>> >> you put across.<br>> >><br>> >> --<br>> >> Jack Allnutt (PPUK)<br>> >><br>> >> On 15/01/2011 02:52, Kenneth Peiruza wrote:<br>> >> > I like it!<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Can be reproduce your text? :D If so, this can be a good starting point<br>> >> > for a joint-PP's-PR we will produce for next monday.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > On 15/01/11 03:36, Rodrigo dA wrote:<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> +1<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:34:51 -0500<br>> >> >> From: jemers2@gmail.com<br>> >> >> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> >> Subject: [pp.int.general] Love and Solidarity to our Tunisian<br>> > Brothers and Sisters<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Pirates and non-pirates alike, we are the youth gone wild. May all<br>> > tyrants of the world who rule with an iron fist rusting on their thrones<br>> > take notice. Your end is near.<br>> >> >> Jay Emerson<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Administrative Officer<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Pirate Party of New York<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> >> ><br>> >> > ____________________________________________________<br>> >> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> > pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> >><br>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ____________________________________________________<br>> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> > pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br> </body>
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