<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>:) </div><div><br></div><div>sweet. I had a feeling the pp-int had wise people around.</div><div><br></div><div>yes latency was discussed. after all, distance is somewhat significant and power limited causing rates to be low (is that the equation ). figured it may be a last resort comm. link. </div><div><br></div><div>also, US seems to have deep pockets & hook up's/leverage/interests ;)</div><div>yes scary. that's why I'm trying to document certain misgivings or potential issues via #openmesh on twitter. Transparency being a huge point. nobody would truly trust it unless they ran it in a 'true' virtuous manner - if that's is possible (even on the international level). </div><div><br></div><div>Common goals keep me close to the project, yet at arms length. I have offered a key person my analytical and technical skills as needed. they understand I am Anonymous in principle. so common interest for the people keeps ideas flowing - for the people. "kill the Internet kill switch" being the higher level idea. yes, 'access now' is the mentality. I do understand that. still...</div><div><br></div><div>so here we are. anyone need help with any other sweet 'kill the Internet kill switch' projects?</div><div><br></div><div>btw. other plans include wimax backhauls. something about parking a ship off shore and aiming various uplink things - yes, a ship - pirates :)</div><div>talk of openBTS was thrown around. that Live CD idea I find to be a security problem - seeing that people will be in a vulnerable state, while opportunists could likely mess with your junk ;)</div><div><br></div><div>of course, dialup seems to be something that worked in Egypt. so we can hookup a mesh network to extend that. use multi point gateway technology built in OLSR, with multiple dialup modems spread around. APs with batteries in backpacks for mobile mesh net . . . ;)</div><div><br></div><div>mesh does work very well. I've been experimenting since last august.</div><div><br></div><div>hmmm... ran out of words :(</div><div>must try to get some sleep.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm up to discus projects. let me know. or check out <a href="http://openmeshproject.org">openmeshproject.org</a> if you feel you can work directly with them. sure to get exposure if you got skillzzz.</div><div><br></div><div>we will win this cyber war waged by tyrants and dictators on us all.</div><div><br></div><div>force transparency seems like one goal. option to remain anonymous is another. are these concepts compatible?</div><div><br></div><div>cheers Sisters and Brothers,</div><div><br></div><div>gs1</div><div><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Feb 3, 2011, at 23:27, Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>On second thought yeah if you can put me in touch with him I'd like to ask him a few questions. Thanks alot!</p>
<p>Jay Emerson<br>
Administrative Officer<br>
Pirate Party of New York</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 3, 2011 8:46 PM, "Kenneth Peiruza" <<a href="mailto:kenneth@contralaguerra.org"><a href="mailto:kenneth@contralaguerra.org">kenneth@contralaguerra.org</a></a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Hi folks,<br>> <br>> <br>
> About satellite communications, some points:<br>> <br>> Last year I asked a friend about sat-com because everyone at Bangkok's<br>> hackerspace went nuts with the (buggy) filtering proxy of Thai's government.<br>
> <br>> I have a friend who is an amazing telecom expert, running a satellite<br>> communication's firm in EMEA, so I asked him about rates and latency.<br>> <br>> <br>> In short:<br>> <br>> 1000 US$ / mbps / month<br>
> Equipment: btw 1200 and 2000 US$<br>> Link Latency 500 ms (all geosynchronous satellites have this delay)<br>> Emitter dish considerably bigger that a simple Sat-TV receiver (AFAIR<br>> 2,5M diameter)<br>> <br>
> IMHO discouraging. If you want it anyway, I can put you in touch with him.<br>> <br>> <br>> Regards,<br>> <br>> Kenneth<br>> <br>> On 04/02/11 01:00, Jay Emerson wrote:<br>>> Thanks and will do.<br>
>> <br>>> Jay Emerson<br>>> Administrative Officer<br>>> Pirate Party of New York<br>>> On Feb 3, 2011 1:41 AM, "bbox-gs" <<a href="mailto:borgbox.drone.guinness1@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:borgbox.drone.guinness1@gmail.com">borgbox.drone.guinness1@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
>>> nice Op. Jay<br>>>><br>>>> also, keep an eye on #openmesh on twitter. looks like they will try and<br>>> buy a satellite. I'm contributing ideas for tech., from afar (still, if they<br>
>> can help - got to push this) - strange bed fellows, I'm on my own. but I'm<br>>> trying to add ideas to make it robust AND pushing to give it to an<br>>> International Org., for full transparency -not US control.<br>
>>> it's an interesting read,<br>>>> at least #borgboxgs1 comments ;)<br>>>><br>>>> anyone know of a good trusted Org. to run the SAT?<br>>>><br>>>> the US centric core group is probably ignoring common sense I think :(<br>
>>> note: Gary Jay Brooks seems like a good egg so far. Shervin???<br>>>><br>>>> maybe more push from the international community would help.<br>>>><br>>>> it has good potential in the right hands.<br>
>>><br>>>> to be seen...<br>>>><br>>>> Peace Brother<br>>>><br>>>> gs1<br>>>><br>>>> Sent from my iPod<br>>>><br>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 0:31, Jay Emerson <<a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jemers2@gmail.com">jemers2@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>>>>> Would members of PPI be up for helping us lobby this company to provide<br>>> free Satellite Internet Services for the Egyptian people?<br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.egyptsat.com/"><a href="http://www.egyptsat.com/">http://www.egyptsat.com/</a></a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> I have started a PiratePad and will collaborate with others if this is<br>>> something some of us would want to do:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://piratenpad.de/ipzdFy569K"><a href="http://piratenpad.de/ipzdFy569K">http://piratenpad.de/ipzdFy569K</a></a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> While it has been restored, I think preparing for another shut down is<br>>> best and what we do:<br>>> <a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/egypt-internet-back-up-as-protests-turn-violent-in-cairo/"><a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/egypt-internet-back-up-as-protests-turn-violent-in-cairo/">http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/egypt-internet-back-up-as-protests-turn-violent-in-cairo/</a></a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> Thanks in advance and feel free to start without me on the PiratePad.<br>>>>><br>>>>> - Jay<br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>> Jay Emerson<br>
>>>> Administrative Officer<br>>>>> New York Pirate Party<br>>>>><br>>>>> "My user has information that could...that could make this a free system<br>>> again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this place, and<br>
>> no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron<br>>>>><br>>>>> ____________________________________________________<br>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net"><a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a></a><br>
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