<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">On 09.02.2011, at 13:51, Brendan Molloy wrote:</div></span></div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Why are we using archaic teleconferencing instead of a mumble or ventrilo server? Or even Skype? Am I missing something obvious here?</span></blockquote></div><br><div>Yes, you are misssing the people, who are on the road and are participating by using an archaic phonecall, that is working fine even on places or situations where access to a computer keyboard or internet is limited (like riding in the car or waiting for a train).</div><div><br></div><div>The second point is, that out telco server is allowing us to stream the meeting. (Mumble only supports recording in the newer versions, but no streaming)</div><div><br></div><div>Skype is bad in many ways - no phone conferences with more than 16 People (and it gets unstable with more than 12 quite often), no streaming, no recording, unfree software that has included spying features in a non-transparent way. (We are not strive for secrecy, since we want open and transparent meetings, but no one knows what data is being collected by skype and in whose order or benefit)</div><div><br></div><div>Of cause you can still use your computer and a soft-phone (a SIP client) to dial in our telco server, if you do not have a phone or prefer to communicate over computer.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Gregory Engels</span></font></div><div>International Coordinator</div><div>Pirate Party of Germany</div><div><br></div><div>mobile: +49 172 853 44 91</div><div><a href="skype:gregory.engels">skype:gregory.engels</a></div><div><a href="jabber:dichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de">jabber:dichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>