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On 02.03.2011 11:39, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
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Dr. Stallman's insistence on this is very well motivated. I have
noticed a tremendous attitude shift since I started using words
that conveyed the right values.<br>
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As long as we allow people to get with the fuzzy "intellectual
property", we will:<br>
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a) be unable to pinpoint the problems with copyrights, patents and
other monopolies, as we need to be specific about the problems,
and few of these problems apply across all monopoly kinds
uniformly<br>
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This is downright false. All IPR is now subtituting physical PR and
acting in the economic development (GDP) and on the market as if
they were such. This goes for copyrights, patents, trademarks,
database rights, data test rights(!!!), plant variety rights,
cultural heritage rights, I may have forgotten something here so
please add it to the list if you can iamgine.<br>
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We should /not/ be separating these different forms of (currently)
property rights because they show a false market, false economic
growth based on false or insecurely determined values that are
currently only functioning as major enterprise safe-guards (yes, ALL
of the above, not just Universal) if they are collected en masse
(imagine big portfolios of papers determining which rights
effectively can be assumed or determined to BELONG TO YOU, just like
physical property). they all work under licensing agreements, which
is something we're increasingly seeing with hardware (laptops,
consoles, cars, ...) as well.<br>
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We should be talking about the problems with licensing (that is,
"fake selling") or the problems with basing GDP growth on fiction
(the only problem is that we probably don't /have/ enough property
in the world to create constant growth so we 'd have to abandon the
idea of non-economic policies :) but we'd have a policy that /works/
and would be consistent with reality rather than one that that makes
less insightful people believe that we can change the market in a
way that the market is actually not able to be changed into).<br>
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this is my problem with Stallman, and all people who choose to make
the same division he do es. I simply do not see any connection to
have stuff actually are working in the IPR industries and a painful
and also naïve misconception that we're living pre-NAFTA (1991).<br>
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/amelia<br>
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b) be susceptible to the "stealing" moniker<br>
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c) lose out on the values we convey in using that language, as
property is a positive word<br>
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It is for a reason that I never talk about the monopolies as
property. Never, ever. Even if other people use that term, I
respond talking about "copyrights and patents" if I want to talk
broadly.<br>
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<b>But it goes beyond that.</b> Words convey more than meaning,
they convey association and emotion. Failing to exploit this, when
your antagonist does so skillfully and continuously, will
marginalize your followers to people unable to feel or communicate
emotion. I am sure we can all identify the problems we had at one
stage -- or still have, in several contexts -- with getting the
message to key extrovert people, social supernodes. <b>This
requires using supernode language.</b><br>
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In Sweden, we have managed to turn the people fighting for the
copyright monopoly from "artists" to "<b>the copyright industry</b>".
That's an immensely powerful meme.<br>
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Not "the record industry", not "the music industry". The industry
which profits off of the copyright monopoly, pure and simple. "The
copyright industry". This meme has now spread to mainstream media,
and signals greed and law exploitation. Just talk about "the
copyright industry" constantly, and the meme will take hold, as it
is a good linguistic catchall for a major player in media.<br>
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You will notice that I'm also constantly talking about <b>the
copyright monopoly</b>. Not "copyright" but "the copyright
monopoly". This is another of those bullets. Any word which is an
X-right is, well, a right. Therefore, it is important to turn the
word into an adjective describing what it really is: a monopoly.<br>
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"The copyright monopoly" is slowly taking hold, and also works
very well.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Rick<br>
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On 03/02/2011 10:51 AM, Boris Turovskiy wrote:
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<pre>Hi Richard,
you're extremely predictable, you know that? A Pawlow dog couldn't be as
trained as you are in finding every instance of "intellectual property"
and ranting about it, completely neglecting the other content.
Best,
Boris
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<pre>As one would expect from WIPO, he used the term "intellectual
property" and thus made a statement so broad it hardly even relates to
real criticism.
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