+1<br><br>Sent from my phone<br><br><div id="htc_header" style="">----- Reply message -----<br>From: "Nuno Cardoso" <nuno.cardoso@partidopiratapt.eu><br>Date: Fri, Mar 25, 2011 01:39<br>Subject: [pp.int.general] court of arbitration<br>To: <pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net><br><br></div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">I try not to involve myself too much in the "flame wars" that sometimes invade this list, but I guess I have to say something here as the international coordinator for the Portuguese Pirate Party.</div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><br></div><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">We voted yes on the Court of Arbitration because we think it is a necessary tool for some occasions where an outside opinion for intransigent disputes is in order. We knew that it would be voted, and if accepted people would have to be elected for it during the conference. As we attended the whole conference, although remotely, we didn't miss any of the procedures or voting sessions, even those that only emerged as motions during the conference itself or the the CoA election that resulted from the accepted amendment.</div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">We only have one thing to complain, and it isn't related to the vote itself, being remote or not, being secret or not. </div><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">The problem was that we wanted to know something more about the people being voted other than just their names, and despite our requests, nobody relayed them.</div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">A presentation of the candidates was needed, and was not given, and our requests ignored. That was the problem, not the voting itself...</div><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Our vote went in and was received, it was our request that was not met, because it was not heard.</div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">A full-time remote delegate proxy person was needed, and in that particular issue the lack of it became a problem.</div><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><br></div><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
BTW, our vote was "We know none of these people, had no info or introduction to any of them, so we vote BLANK", but now that at least the opinions of one of them are known, yours, we would probably ranked you as our last choice, and be sure that our vote on such undemocratic amendment will be NO!</div>
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On 23-03-2011 09:44, Maxime Rouquet wrote:
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<pre>We are quite used to have every kind of problems with remote delegates.
this is the second time and nothing improved at all, it even went worst.
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<pre>I do not know what will happen about the actual Court of Arbitration
but, next time, I am starting to think about submitting an amendment to
the PPI statutes that says only people present shall vote at the General
Assembly.
If you want to vote, either you will come in person, or you will give
your vote power to a delegate ; and only you will be responsible for
contacting him/her. (This is actually what some parties did.)
I warn you because, if such measure is adopted on the status amendment
phase, it will work for the Board and Court of Arbitration elections ;
so in case such an amendment is adopted, you better have a delegate present.
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