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My full support for this version of history.<br><br>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:28:42 +0200<br>> From: quemener.yves@free.fr<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Open letter to Anonymous (please distribute)<br>> <br>> On 06/06/2011 12:21 AM, lilo wrote:<br>> > i wondering for the bad answers in hackerspace, they simply write that<br>> > the "politic does not apply to hackers".<br>> <br>> Sorry but this is not an accurate description of what happened on the <br>> hackerspaces mailing list. The first reaction was that giving <br>> instructions to anonymous or to internet at large was just wishful thinking.<br>> <br>> I then proceeded to explain that political speech on a technical mailing <br>> list was doomed to receive negative response. Understand that people <br>> calling themselves hackers on this mailing list are for most of them <br>> makers, not security experts or crypto-geeks.<br>> <br>> Understand as well that the message signed by the CCC, l0pht and cult of <br>> dead cow amongst others is a 1999 message urging hacktivists to not <br>> disrupt internet infrastructure of regimes they did not like, that this <br>> was counter-productive. The "open letter to Anonymous" did not (yet) <br>> receive any kind of major support.<br>> <br>> I have the feeling that in 2011, the confrontation that the 1999 message <br>> wanted to avoid finally happened. Wikileaks censorship, mandatory DRMs, <br>> criminalization of every trivial online act... I think many crackers <br>> (yes that's the word we should use in theory instead of "hackers" when <br>> referring to people who break into someone's computer, I know this is a <br>> lost fight) considered the various censorship laws and actions that <br>> appeared recently as a casus belli. I have the feeling that the <br>> wikileaks DNS records affair has been the igniting spark.<br>> <br>> These people break the laws we are trying to change. We don't have to <br>> support them but we have to admit that they are our shadow, that we move <br>> together not because of an agreement but because we react to the same <br>> things. We don't obey them, they don't obey us. But we hit the same <br>> targets : where we protest, they are attacking.<br>> <br>> Whether or not this conflict becomes the first cyber-war that the media <br>> rapaciously wait for or a demonstration of progress through democratic <br>> discussion relies a lot on the actions of the pirate parties of the <br>> world. If we can bring credible changes in the laws, the crackers will <br>> become obsolete and useless. If we can't, we will be as useless as <br>> diplomats in a blitzkrieg.<br>> <br>> That may look like a dramatization, but a lot of things in the 21st <br>> century will depend on the stance the world takes toward this <br>> "intellectual property" mess. It is more than just about culture : it <br>> encompasses science and technology through patents and copyrights on <br>> designs, agriculture through property rights on crops species, and <br>> medicine on the generic drugs issues.<br>> <br>> Iv<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br> </body>
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