It's about the message that party sends. Of course it's not closing the choice area. That should be balanced political decision. period.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Andrew Norton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com">ktetch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="im">On 7/30/2011 4:51 PM, piratska partija wrote:<br>
> I have to say that decisions like this are dangerous and erode the<br>
> consistency of ideology. Also we should check the info since the post<br>
> has been made in the name of trolling.<br>
<br>
</div>What ideology? This isn't the Free Software Foundation. Since there's no<br>
ideology requiring FOSS software in the pirate party stuff, then it<br>
can't violate ideological purity, and thus political correctness.<br>
<br>
Unless I've missed something major, one of the things the Pirate Party<br>
is NOT, is a FOSS pressure group.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> cheerz<br>
><br>
> 2011/7/30 Rok Andrée <<a href="mailto:rok.andree@piratskastranka.net">rok.andree@piratskastranka.net</a><br>
</div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rok.andree@piratskastranka.net">rok.andree@piratskastranka.net</a>>><br>
<div class="im">><br>
> Gonna have to agree with Boris and Andrew.<br>
><br>
> Beeing opensource/free(as in freedome) gives software extra points<br>
> but it does not disqualify nonfree software.<br>
><br>
> Lp<br>
> Rok Andrée<br>
> Blagajnik -Treasurer<br>
> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 30 July 2011 22:26, Andrew Norton <<a href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com">ktetch@gmail.com</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com">ktetch@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 7/30/2011 4:01 PM, Boris Turovskiy wrote:<br>
>> */this is a trolling post/*<br>
>> Ahoi,<br>
><br>
>> The Pirate Party of Germany has decided to use a proprietary,<br>
> commercial<br>
>> software tool for accounting and member management. After a<br>
> review of<br>
>> all possibilities that software was the only one which<br>
> conformed to all<br>
>> requirements.<br>
>> As you can surmise I'm fully supportive of the German Pirate Party<br>
>> Board's approach, as I consider a software to be a tool which<br>
> has to be<br>
>> chosen based on its suitability.<br>
><br>
> I'm with you, Boris. Choosing tools based on ideology, rather than<br>
> suitability is like fighting sweatshops by never wearing shoes.<br>
> It makes<br>
> little difference overall, and hurts your ability to perform<br>
> optimally.<br>
><br>
> Pirate Parties are *NOT* FOSS-cheerleading orgs, they're<br>
> freedom, and<br>
> progress orgs. That might mean promoting FOSS alternatives at times<br>
> (particularly if they're the better option), but when there<br>
> isn't one,<br>
> but there is a non-FOSS method that works perfectly, then use<br>
> the non-FOSS.<br>
><br>
> Personally, if non-FOSS is a fair way ahead of the FOSS<br>
> equivalent, I'm<br>
> not going to cripple my ability to do things on ideological grounds.<br>
> That's just stupid. Just like the politicians here in the US<br>
> right now.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
>> However, I know that there are some people in the<br>
> international Pirate<br>
>> movement who see software as a principal issue (invoking terms<br>
> like<br>
>> "freedom" and other utter bullshit), for whom I wish to create<br>
> this<br>
>> thread. They can safely troll here in the knowledge that no0<br>
> one takes<br>
>> them seriously.<br>
><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Boris<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> -<br>
</div>> Aleksandar Blagojevi? aka blaeks<br>
> former PPI board member<br>
><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-<br>Aleksandar Blagojević aka blaeks<br>former PPI board member <br>